I know a lot of you are already into reloading and familiar with equipment.
I want this for Christmas so must get my list together.
Want small multistage press, dies, resizer...
What do I need? My brass is very clean, do I need a tumbler to get started too?
Please offer list for starter kit (this is for 10mm)
Thanks for all your help guys!!!
To be honest for a progressive I use Dillon but they are more expensive. This one will come with what you need in the press all at one whack it looks like. Plus I know guys that use them and have nothing bad to say about them. I know I like their single stages just fine but never used one of their progressives myself.
http://cgi.ebay.com/LEE-10mm-Auto-Lo...item5ad5ccbb07
You will also want a tumbler and seperator. Just a simple sift pan will do it if all your doing in 10mm. But after looking at the link again I would look at his feedback carefully before doing business with them. You get the idea though
Last edited by sfguard; 12-05-2010 at 12:49 AM.
good thread, glocknewb!
i've never reloaded, but i've read a little bit on the subject.
i've noticed that dillon presses are considered good stuff by many folks, as sfguard mentioned
sf, how are the cheaper lee presses? good stuff too?
Great answer SF and thanks for the link.
Don the link provided by SF goes to a complete Lee setup :-) Santy Claws is comin
Great GN! I am interested in reloading as well!
The short answer, for a complete set of equipment including a SINGLE STAGE PRESS, is about $800, the attached file is a detailed list.
The press type is important, because while a single stage press is cheaper than a progressive press or a multi-stage reloading machine, reloading with a single stage is a whole lot slower than using a progressive press. For rifle reloading, this isn't a big deal, because I think it's fair to say that most rifle shooters don't use ammunition in volumes even approaching what competitive (action) pistol shooters use.
Of course, progressive presses or multi-stage reloading machines are more expensive than single stage presses. There's that old "time is money" adage, again.
Now, you can do without some of this stuff initially, but I think this is about where you'll end up. I've done quit a bit of research on this topic (mainly for rifles) and I've even written a book about it, so my comments aren't just off the cuff. Remember, this is only a list of equipment. You will also need primers, powder, and bullets, as well as a place to set up the press and store all of the equipment.
Your $800 will buy you about 32 boxes (1600 rounds) of 10mm ammunition, assuming you can get it for around $25 per box. So the question becomes, how fast are you going to use up that much ammunition?
Chris
Pistol Reloading List.pdf
Last edited by cohland; 12-05-2010 at 02:57 PM.
"I don’t believe in fairy tales or sermons or stories about money, baby sister. But thank you for the cigarette."
Rooster Cogburn, in "True Grit"
Cohland, Thanks for great list!
Were I to pickup something like the link SF provided:
http://cgi.ebay.com/LEE-10mm-Auto-Lo...item5ad5ccbb07
or one a little less expensive like:
http://cgi.ebay.com/LEE-10mm-Auto-Pr...item5ad4ead0d4
what might I still need to add, aside from the actual primers, powder, (I have enough brass to use for awhile) and slugs?
Thanks much for your insight here!!
GN
The first link was empty, in the second I could see a Lee kit.
I don't know the details of that kit, so I suggest you go to the Lee website and look it up, see what it contains, and go from there. It looks like it would replace the press, dies, and powder measure from my list, but I'm guessing. You never really know what the packages include until you do some research.
If you have a Cabela's store within driving distance, that would be a great source. They know what they're talking about , and their prices are fair.
As an alternative, others on this board might come back with more knowledge of progressive reloaders, and they could be helpful.
But keep this in mind: 10mm ammo costs about $25 per box. You buy it and put it in the closet until you need it. It has a shelf life of over 50 years. That $800 would buy you 1,600 rounds of ammo, which is quite a bit. If you're planning to burn it up that fast, then reloading might make economic sense. And if you just want to do reloading because it's an interesting craft, then that makes sense, too. But don't go into reloading thinking that you're going to save money doing it, because that's a pretty "iffy" proposition for most people.
Sorry to be so long-winded, I get carried away.
Chris
Last edited by cohland; 12-05-2010 at 02:56 PM.
"I don’t believe in fairy tales or sermons or stories about money, baby sister. But thank you for the cigarette."
Rooster Cogburn, in "True Grit"
By the way, Midway USA sells that same kit for $10 less, and they're a very reputable online source. Here's what they say is in the kit:
Press Type: Progressive Press
Auto Index: Yes
Number of Stations: 3
Frame Material: Steel, Cast Aluminum and Polymer
Handle Location: Bottom Right or Left
Die Size Accepted: 7/8"-14 Threaded Dies
Die Bushing Accepted: No
Die Bushing Brand Used: N/A, Utilizes 3 Hole Turrets (Comes with 1)
Spent Primer Collection System:
Ram Stroke: 3-1/2"
Priming Feature: Uses the Lee Pro 1000 Primer Attachment
Number of Mounting Holes: 3
Mounting Hardware Included: No
Additional Features: Extra turrets and shell plate carriers available (sold separately). For reloaders buying this kit who plan to load more than the caliber listed in the description with this press. Please note that the Pro Auto-Disk powder measure (included as part of the kit) will only work with Lee powder-through expanding dies.
Kit Includes: Caliber specific die set: Pistol Calibers include Carbide 3-Die sets, while the Rifle Calibers include Pacesetter 2-Die sets and rifle charging die, Pro Auto-Disk Powder Measure with 4 disks, Pro 1000 Primer attachment, Case Feeder attachment with tubes, Shell plate
HERE ARE THE INSTRUCTIONS FOR THE KIT:
Pro_1000.pdf
Last edited by cohland; 12-05-2010 at 02:49 PM.
"I don’t believe in fairy tales or sermons or stories about money, baby sister. But thank you for the cigarette."
Rooster Cogburn, in "True Grit"
Not at all! Need long winded at this point. lol Not sure what happened to first link...here it is complete:
http://cgi.ebay.com/LEE-10mm-Auto-Lo...item5ad5ccbb07
Long winded helps here because I know nothing about this and knowledge is power! :-) Please peruse this link...say's complete...?