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    Perceived Recoil


    Following Tactworld's post about foot-lbs and kinetic energy, I've been trying to decide about what weight bullets to use in my Glocks. So here's my question:

    Can anyone tell the difference between shooting 115gr and 147gr bullets? I'm trying to figure if one bullet weight is better than another for competition.
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    I feel much less recoil from 147 grain than 115 grain.
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    Need more info.....are you reloading or using factory ammo? What type of competition......paper or metal targets? What model Glock......compensated? Any special mods to the firearm?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OklahomaSafeShooting View Post
    Need more info.....
    Sure. Glock models are in my profile. I'm a completely stock shooter, no mods. Factory ammo for now. Currently using Winchester 147gr Truncated TMJ -- impossible to find now so will be switching to Speer lawman. I compete mainly IDPA but also shoot GSSF and USPSA.

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    Easy choice then the 147 gr for what you have listed is your best choice. As you progress and start having all that spent brass you will probably want to start reloading. When and if that happens your world will expand in the choices you can have for competition and the way you can "tune" your rounds for the feel you like, the punch you need and how the action cycles. Happy shooting!

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    Like most everything else the answer is "it depends".
    If you are talking about making a decision based purely on perceived recoil, I would start with the same energy equation as Tactworld posted in the other thread. The equation works the same on the delivery end as the recieving end of the trajectory.
    Just for starters I'd look at this list of muzzle energy for all the rounds listed here.
    9mm Ballistics Chart | Ballistics 101
    Pick the one with the lowest muzzle energy - as long as your pistol will still cycle reliably.
    (Now when you start talking about accuracy it gets more complicated)
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    If you look at the attached chart showing loads for 9mm, maybe it will illustrate why 147 gr is generally softer shooting. When you use a heavier bullet, there is less available room in the case for powder. I initially thought a heavier bullet would also have a heavier charge, but as you can see from the chart, that's not true.

    9mm Luger Reloading Data - 9x19 Handloads Information

    The exception lies in the 124 grain loads, there you find heavier charges and heavier bullets. Not all 124 grain loads have "heavy" charges, but being that the 124 grain was the "parabellum", or "for war" round, it makes sense that there are plenty of stout loads for that bullet for a variety of reasons.

    147 gr bullets are popular in SD scenarios because of the inertia the heavier projectile carries. This is a very simplified attempt at an explanation. But hopefully it will help you begin to look into a very broad subject.
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    You might also ask your friends/competitors at your matches what ammunition they prefer...
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    Great thread! I've learned a lot! I thought target practice with a 115 would be better, but as EdF702 pointed out that only leaves more room for gun powder!

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    Quote Originally Posted by firewire View Post
    Great thread! I've learned a lot! I thought target practice with a 115 would be better, but as EdF702 pointed out that only leaves more room for gun powder!
    I find that good standard pressure (not +p) FMJ, like American Eagle, gives me the best accuracy up to 25 yards. The 124 grain shoots the best point of aim to point of impact, virtually spot on from 10 yards to 25 yards. With 115 grain all my 9mm Glocks shoot about 3 inches low and 147 grain shoots about 3 inches above point of aim at the same distances.

    It's an interesting exercise to try that for yourself. Get some of each ammo, use a rest, and do some testing. The whole "bullets travel in an arc" seemed like BS until I actually tested the point of aim / impact with different weight bullets.
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