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    No CCW required now in Missouri

    That's right. But wrong, IMHO. The state just passed a law, at the very end of the session, and by a great enough margin so that it can't be vetoed, allowing anyone to carry concealed, and with no permit or CCW required whatsoever. Good for the sale of G42 and 43, but bad for the rest of us. NO training required! The population of the state will swell from the disgruntled in CA and NY/NJ. St Louis already has the honor of being the country's most violent city. I predict that it will hold onto its record. Thanks. John

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    Honestly, the folks that never carried before... will probably never carry now. As far as training goes... taking a class a good safe shooter does not make. Its a mind set, a practiced skill and result of multiple sessions of instruction and many live round trigger pulls.

    Those that think automagically someone will be competent and safe after a 1 hour class are fooling them selves. Some may be more safer.. but by what measure?

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    What am I missing here ? Don't understand why you think this is bad. I have a Texas CHL (Now LTC) what I learned in the 6 Hour course was very basic. And if i was looking for a Handgun 101, the CHL course was not it. Somewhere down the line, if the desire hits. You get some more training. That;s called personal responsibility. Something that's lacking in the USA today.
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    In theory, the effort to get a license was a barrier limiting who would legally carry. A bad guy without a felony could get a permit but they tend to not be law abiding folks. If they chose to carry a gun without a license and we're stopped for any reason they could be taken off the streets. Now they can carry the gun and not worry about it.

    I don't think removing the license to carry creates a safer environment. The problem with licenses were areas that tried to deny issuing them. In Texas that's never been a problem so here I think it's been a good barrier.

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    Unfortunately, the Governor vetoed Senate bill 656, so until the legislature meets in September to override the veto, you MUST still have a CCW permit to carry concealed in Missouri.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnStefanowicz View Post
    That's right. But wrong, IMHO. The state just passed a law, at the very end of the session, and by a great enough margin so that it can't be vetoed, allowing anyone to carry concealed, and with no permit or CCW required whatsoever. Good for the sale of G42 and 43, but bad for the rest of us. NO training required! The population of the state will swell from the disgruntled in CA and NY/NJ. St Louis already has the honor of being the country's most violent city. I predict that it will hold onto its record. Thanks. John
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kennyddale View Post
    So Freedom is a BAD THING?


    I am with you on this. There are several state like Vermont, Maine, Kansas and Alaska ( I think) that have similar laws and I do not recall crime spiraling out of control. I think I could raise an argument for if they are true,y bad actors, then perhaps the DAs won't be so quick to plea bargin a crime to a misdemeanor.

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    If I were a gun dealer I would offer a free safety class to anybody who purchased a firearm. That's the best way to do it and let the marketplace take care of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nickndfl View Post
    If I were a gun dealer I would offer a free safety class to anybody who purchased a firearm. That's the best way to do it and let the marketplace take care of it.


    Agreed

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    I think its stupid the way they hand out CCW...at least in Florida

    They should mandate at least so many hours at the range taking instruction from a certified instructor. Then every few years take a safety class to keep it up to date.

    Kind of like a pilots license

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