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    I, agree with PJ. I try to obey the law, whether or not I agree or disagree. It's the only thing that separates me from a common criminal. O.K., occasionally my speedo creeps a little above the posted limit...but...

    As far as Church, because it's such a complex issue, I would pull the pastor aside in private, get his feelings on it, and comply, just as I would if I were to carry while a guest in your home. I might not like the answer I get, but then again, I'm in someone else's home.

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    If it's a law, obey the law. That said, "Gun Free Zones" are a counter-intuitive bad idea...people have this unexplained tendency to feel as if firearms are living things with minds of their own...it's not rational. I'll leave it at that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Purkeypilot View Post
    If it's a law, obey the law. That said, "Gun Free Zones" are a counter-intuitive bad idea...people have this unexplained tendency to feel as if firearms are living things with minds of their own...it's not rational. I'll leave it at that.
    Purkey, this is one of the most profound posts I've read in a long time. This should be painted on signs and placed directly below "Gun Free Zone" signs.

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    Thanks for the kind words FT. Truly though, look at just the last couple of years; movie theatres and schools. I'd like to know if the theatre in Aurora had a "No Weapons" sign (I can imagine that it probably did) and if the schools were "Gun Free Zones" (again, I'm sure they were) . Everyone knows what happened at those places...The signs are the literal equivalent of screaming "Target", and asking the bad guys to, "Please behave and be nice ok?". It's passive, irresponsible, ignorant, ineffective, REactive, and frankly, purely incompetent.

    I also find if asinine and personally offensive when I hear ridiculous ideas people have come up with to "help"; things such as barred windows, inspection points, blah blah blah...who want to sent their kid to a school that is, for all intents and purposes a PRISON? Not me!

    Anyway, sorry to rant. I hate doing it. My point is that the People are slipping. Losing what it means to be American. It's the finest country in the world. We got where we are by being innovative, strong willed, strong spirited, self reliant, confident, hard working individuals. So I say in closing; It's a gun. Get over it. It's a really fancy wrench, only with a different purpose. A righteous purpose. Try one sometime. Not only are they fun as hell, but it will give you an enhanced sense of respect, awareness, self discipline, and DUTY. They're good for you, yours and everyone. Ok, doneskies. Thanks for listening Glock.pro. You're all awesome.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ParabellumJ View Post
    In Michigan it is illegal to carry a firearm into a place of worship. The law has deemed them as a "Gun Free Zone", whether you are legally licensed to carry or not. The law does not apply to on duty LEO's. I have no issue with a police officer being armed in church.
    It also does not apply to off duty police officers, nor if you have a cpl with gun fee exemption.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dpadams6 View Post
    It also does not apply to off duty police officers, nor if you have a cpl with gun fee exemption.

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    I attend my church every Sunday and try to make the mid week gatherings but sometimes life get's in the way. The preacher yesterday sermoned about not letting anything get in the way of God. (there is a message there)

    I also do volunteer work at the church for repairs and anything else I can do to contribute.

    I carry my weapon in church during services as well as when doing chores ! !

    Kinda like the age old argument of carrying one in the pipe or not ain't it ?

    I do take the precaution to make sure to wear clothing that conceals even the "bulge", and am always checking to make sure I am not printing so as to not alarm any of the others.

    As far as I know, the preacher does not know nor do any of the members, (well, 'cept for a few that "know" me ).


    I would respect the pastor's decision to carry or not carry in my church, it just has never been a concern there.

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    In SC the CWP laws Allow concealed carry in places of worship "with permission of the ruling authority". That authority in our church is the board of deacons. There are about 30 of us who have been authorized. We all are given a card stating that permission has been granted. We make up a safety committee of sorts. We all shoot IDPA competition together, as well as train together on the church property. We train in communications and first aid. We all usually carry every week, but are only required to be "officially" on duty about once a month. Then we are positioned at strategic locations around and within the sanctuary during services. We discussed our plans for a long time before creating this team. Both the ethics and the tactics. We feel that in the current political climate, it is getting more dangerous to be a Christian. The bombings and assaults against churches around the world prove that it is prudent to be vigilant. If you do not have a safety team in place at your church, I would strongly suggest you bring the matter to the governing authority at your church. Our local sherrif department has been very supportive in our efforts, providing information and training.

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    Rangerbluedog, sounds like you have a pretty great church you go to, great to have a group of people like that that are that serious about protecting their family's and loved ones.

    This thread had got me wondering, how can they pass legislation making it illegal in some states to carry in a place of worship? Seems like an obvious cut and dry violation of separation of church and state.

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    That's an interesting question. Until reading this thread I didn't even realize some states banned concealed carry in places of worship. To me, the first amendment would preclude the Federal government from even attempting to establish a law in this case. That would be as bad as trying to dictate if you can carry weapons in your own home.
    However, individual state constitutions may be worded differently.

    BTW, thanks. Yes, I am blessed to be a part of a great group of believers!
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