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    Actually, a .22 is enough for Grizz..... But only if there are multiple people in your party. Just shoot the one you like least in the leg and run like hell! If the bear is still hungry, repeat in order of likeability and usefulness.

    I've been to Jellystone a few times.... Camping is when bears can be an issue as they "know" that there is food there. If you are day tripping or just driving the loops and taking short hikes, unless you're doing this at night you probably won't see any bears. The Rangers do a great job of protecting the bears from stupid humans.
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    I would say take out the gun, shoot yourself and avoid the pain and agaony of what is coming next... just a thought from Alaska.
    Hangings on the courthouse lawn would deter a lot!!!
    But until that day returns... I'll carry my Glock

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    Quote Originally Posted by cohland View Post
    In addition to firepower, I suggest some spray-power (Bear Spray):Counter Assault Bear Deterrent Spray - 10.2 oz. - Free Shipping at REI.com

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    Chris is correct. The spray may be more effective than the 10mm.
    I've backpacked the southwest corner of Yellowstone several times and it is THE PREMIER place for backpacking in the us, IMHO.
    However, I've seen a video of a park ranger shooting an attacking grizzly, at bear wrestling range, repeatedly with a .357 magnum with hollow points. No effect on the bear! You might feel more comfortable with the 10mm but I honestly feel you would be safer with the bear spray; the 10mm might just make her angry - the spray could disable her and give you a chance to find a tree.

    One trip we had in Yellowstone, we came across a guy hiking out wiht his pack all torn up, his clothes ripped and bites and scratches all over his body. He said that he was tree'd by an angry grizzly who then began to pull and push and shake the tree. He hung on for dear life and eventually the bear left. Just as he had recovered enough to start coming down from the tree, the bear returned with a second bear and the two of them tried to dislodge him from the tree but failed and left. After calming himself down for a second time and preparing to disembark, he saw the two bears returning with a beaver between them....

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    FIREARMS IN PARKS

    As of February 22, 2010, a new federal law allows people who can legally possess firearms under applicable federal, state, and local laws, to legally possess firearms in this park.

    The Credit Card Accountability Responsibility and Disclosure Act of 2009, was enacted May 22, 2009 and will become effective February 22, 2010. Section 512 of this law; Protecting Americans from Violent Crimes, supersedes the uniform treatment of firearm possession in the national park system outside Alaska under the regulations found at 36 C.F.R. 2.4.

    It is the responsibility of visitors to understand and comply with all applicable state, local, and federal firearms laws before entering this park. Yellowstone encompasses parts of Wyoming, Montana, and Idaho. Each state has different regulations and these are listed below.

    Federal law also prohibits firearms in certain facilities in this park (such as visitor centers, government offices, etc.); those places are marked with signs at all public entrances. Hunting and discharge of firearms remain prohibited in Yellowstone National Park.

    Firearms should not be considered a wildlife protection strategy. Bear spray and other safety precautions are the proven methods for preventing bear and other wildlife interactions.

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    two bears returning with a beaver between them....

    Good one. Almost spit out my coffee
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    To answer the OP's original question as far as 10mm loads best for larger game, Cor-Bon offers a 10mm load in their Hunter line that drives a 200 grain (SD .179) Penetrator round-nose (RNPN) bullet at 1125 fps and 562 ft. lbs. This is the 10mm load I would choose for protection in the field. The Cor-Bon Hunter line also includes a 180 grain (SD .161) bonded core soft point (BCSP) bullet at a MV of 1300 fps and ME of 676 ft. lbs. The best 10mm Auto loads are about equivalent to the best .357 Magnum revolver loads. But as suggested by many, don't count on being able to use the gun, and at best, is better than throwing a rock!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cohland View Post
    In addition to firepower, I suggest some spray-power (Bear Spray):Counter Assault Bear Deterrent Spray - 10.2 oz. - Free Shipping at REI.com

    Chris
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    The best bear protection is a single shot .22. Then you can shoot your buddy in the leg and out run him.

    The next best protection is to bring along an old slow dog.

    When I moved to Alaska 30 years ago I noticed most Cheechako's first purchase was a .44 magnum revolver for bear protection. Then followed some good advice to file the front site down so when the bear crammed it up your keester it wouldn't hurt so bad.

    One the serious side. One of the few incidences of surviving a brown bear attack using a pistol occurred a couple of years ago up here. During the attack the fellow jammed it in the bear's mouth and was able to touch off a round or two. If not for that he would have been toast.

    I've been very close to many brown bear and only had a .357 with me. Luckily the bears were not aggressive and I was able to back away. I didn't have a lot of confidence that my pistol was enough, and I doubt a 10 mm is going to be enough either unless a lot of luck is involved.

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    I know this is an old thread but in reading it I noticed that no one brought up the subject of semi auto vs revolver. I was told long ago that, for the type of use described by the OP, a revolver would be the better choice. A worst case scenario would involve have a critter actually get ahold of you. A revolver would allow you to push the firearms muzzle against the body and make "contact shots" while a semi auto (assuming a stock barrel configuration) being pushed into the hide/fur might discharge the chambered round but probably no more after that. At least that's what I have long thought........because it appears that most all of the folks that pack serious handguns in that part of the world seem to pretty much go with wheelguns.
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    The 10mm Auto is a good round, maybe on a Black Bear, but a Brown Bear? Oooooo. I'd rather take my chances with a .30-06.
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    Just saw this ad......its pretty funny and it made me think of this thread..............I wonder if the test subjects were asked if they were carrying concealed?

    https://youtu.be/vIC7Fw1rFF4
    Last edited by Tinman; 07-19-2015 at 02:59 AM.

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