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10 mm the good, bad &ugly

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#1 ·
Thinking of a 10 mm pistol.

What is the good, the bad, the ugly if you would.
 
#2 ·
The bad . . . Price of ammo? Expensive compared to 9mm but in the range of similar rounds. For me, the recoil feels very soft but the muzzle does rise quite a bit. I seem to be much slower back to the target then say a .357 sig. It could just be mental though.

The good, it's awesome to shoot :) and a strong enough round to hunt with if you choose.

I should qualify my post - Im new to 10mm and 357sig. Just started shooting them recently.

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#5 · (Edited)
The good:
-Lot of fun to shoot. Large range of factory ammo loads, from lighter loads meant for the 40 S&W cartridges to "hot" meant-for-10mm rounds.​
-optional 6 inch Glock OEM barrel​
-If you like GSSF competitions, 10mm pistols can be used in their Heavy Metal division​

The bad:
-$$ ammo​
-Larger grip is needed to accommodate the cartridge.​
 
#7 ·
My G20.3 SF was a little bit buggy. I went to my LGS to get a cheap carry pistol to go with the S&W .357 mag. my son bought me (out of guilt for all the stuff of mine he wrecked while growing up). I wanted a S&W SD40VE but they didn't have one, same with the SD9VE. I'd been watching lots of YouTube videos of the Glock 10mm and liked what I saw, but never really considered Glocks. I asked the salesman if they had a Glock 20 and they said they did, so I said "sold, I'll put it in lay away". Four long months later, I got it out of lay away and took it to the range. I think that's when the bugs in the gun came out and got into my system and I can't seem to get rid of them. A few months ago I put a G27.4 - sub-compact 40S&W in lay away and as of today, have $200 left on it. I have plans for a G23.4 compact 40S&W to go in lay away after the G27 is paid for. I plan on getting Lone Wolf 9mm conversion barrels for both of them, so I'll almost have both the G19 & G26 also. After that, I was thinking about the G29, which is the sub-compact 10mm. All because they didn't have that $350 S&W gun that I wanted in the first place. I have no regrets . . .
 
#10 · (Edited)
Good topic. As everyone has previously said, the cartridge cost is high. If you reload that is a non issue, and you can start with lighter loads until you learn how it shoots for you. I purchased my Gen2 G20 new and have had 0 issues with it. I have a boot fund now for a Gen 4 G40 MOS to take on a hog hunt.

Embrace the 10,you wont regret it.
 
#11 ·
Good topic. As everyone has previously said, the cartridge cost is high. If you reload that is a non issue, and you can start with lighter loads until you learn how it shoots for you. I purchased my Gen2 G20 new and have had 0 issues with it. I have a boot fund now for a Gen 4 G20 MOS to take on a hog hunt.

Embrace the 10,you wont regret it.
Thanks for the post. I do not reload.
 
#12 ·
I got my first 10mm, the G29 and loved it. Talk about the beast but easier to shoot than the 40sw. The 40sw are a snappy lot.

I found the Hornady 10mm 175 FlexLock easy to shoot but still more powerful than the 40sw in the same weight. Great choice for SD though I'm carrying the Underwood 10mm 200 XTP but I'm stocked up on Hornady 175 and hopefully get more.
 
#13 · (Edited)
Exactly, YoYo. 40 was always too snappy for me. If I needed a tick up from 9 I would head to a 10 or 45, depending on the application.

Take a look at at Lehigh cartridges. If you reload the world is your oyster. Underwood uses Lehigh bullets and Underwood is known to load hot. Im working a few things out with Underwood wrt load consistency now. Had about 40% case bulges with a Delta.
 
#14 ·
All of the rounds through my G20 have been hand loads, except for 50 factory rounds that an indoor range required me to use. Even if I have to buy 180 grain XTP bullets, the total cost is around $0.35 each. I mainly use X-treme 180 grain HPCB (Heavy Plate, Concave Base) which have a thicker plate and are rated up to 1,500 fps, with a total cost of about $0.18 each. You don't save any money, you just get to shoot a whole lot more. I have loaded 9mm, 10mm, 40 S&W, 45 ACP, .223 rem, 38 & 357 mag. and enjoy reloading almost as much as shooting. I have to load & shoot a bunch in order for the savings to offset the cost my Dillon 550b, but those sacrifices must be made.
I liked the idea that the 10mm is just as powerful as my 357, if not more so, plus 15+1 rounds compared to 7 in my 357. I have carried the G20 concealed and it wasn't as uncomfortable as I expected, even when driving. I have a bulky Safariland IWB and I'd like to try an Alien Gear 3.0 IWB for it as they seem like they would spread the size of the pistol out against your body. The 10mm is an awesome round and I'm glad I added it to my arsenal.
 
#18 ·
DarkMatter,

Read your mail.
 
#20 ·
The good? Fun to shoot and using the Glock 29 easy to carry. Yes, it is a smidgen thicker than a Glock 23 but with my Advanced Holster GL-1 it mostly disappears.
The bad? Fun to shoot so you'll spend more to have fun. Easy to carry if you have a G29 so you may sell your FBI approved minimum caliber 9mm's.
Th ugly? Glock's ain't pretty but it's not the only 10mm at the dance.
:)
 
#21 ·
I got the 180 grain X-tremes to go 1,100 fps with 10.0 of Blue Dot & 1,200 fps with 11.0 grains of BD. I can't be 100% sure on my chronograph since I shot and repaired it. The digits on the left side are a little bit obscure and erratic at times. I also tried 8.0 grains of BE-86 for kicks and got 1,150 fps. The recoil seemed to be pretty potent, but not quite like I imagine DT, BB or Underwood would be. All the brass was once or more fired and showed no pressure signs on the primers or case walls. My G20.3 SF seems to have the improved chamber support at the feed ramp, with little of the case wall showing.
I can hit 4" bullseyes consistently with my S&W 357 6" barrel, but I'm still having trouble getting used to Glocks U-dot sights, hitting 4" bullseyes at 15 yards. I think I need some more range time. I voted on it and the votes determined that, yep, I do. I have a county gravel pit about 3 miles away that someone set up with 10' high berms (20 yards wide x 40 yards deep) for target practice, so I am one of the lucky ones as far as that goes.
 
#22 ·
Down here in South carolina there are many places like that. One guy has 1500 yards at 300, 400, 500.....etc. But there are many 100 yard spots for pistolas.
 
#24 ·
I've been a long time fan of the 10mm. Formerly had the Colt Delta Elite and the Kimber Eclipse Custom II. Loved them both. I've had 1911s all my life and have enjoyed shooting, carrying, and collecting them forever.
But a friend make me an offer I couldn't refuse so, sadly, I sold the Delta and the Kimber to him last summer...
But, the upside was that I now had the cash for a new Eclipse Custom II and a new G20, plus 6 mags for each and 1000 rounds!
I feel I made out OK...:cool:

The G20 is a new adventure for me. So far, so good. No complaints with the pistol or any of the mags.
Usually shoot the Sellier & Bellot 180 gr, or Remington's 180 gr. for range work and plinking at distance.
(Or whatever cheap stuff I can find! :p) - I'm in love with Mike McNetts ammo! I have plenty of the DoubleTap 230 gr Equalizer for carry, and the DT 230gr. WFNGC Hardcast for woods work. (Buy a little every month...)
Best advice I can give for ammo is to buy in bulk or reload, and be sure to try the DoubleTap stuff...
You won't regret it.
 
#26 ·
I find the S&B to be very reliable. It's cheap and fairly easy to find... It's always online... It can be a tad dirty, but I don't mind cleaning the weapon... Like they say, 'Fat people cleaning their guns on the couch watching TV'...:cool:
My 1911s all have had trigger jobs and are very reliable. The G20 will be a learning experience. I have some concerns about the trigger, but no complaints so far...
 
#27 ·
Good to know about the S&B. It's a Glock -- it likes the dirt. :) I have read other favorable reports and I think it has a bit more "omph" than the PPU. Glock triggers are easy to upgrade/tweak. I don't know if you can replicate a 1911 trigger exactly but you may be able to get close.
 
#28 ·
I honestly don't get why people like the 10MM/40 super....the 45 ACP Is a larger caliber, performance wise there are similar or equal loading's In 45 and being way cheaper to shot...However...If I were hunting large game I believe I'd still prefer the 45 In a 7" long slide with a good sight of course, and that friend's Is just my opinion.
 
#29 ·
Grayman, it's the same as choosing a car. The Prius gets 40mpg. A Chevy pickup gets around 15-18. Do I need a pickup? No. So, why buy a pickup? Because I'm not gonna ride in a Prius. Personal choice.
I own both .45s and 10MMs. I won't go smaller. The .45 will stop any badguy. The 10mm will go thru that badguy and stop his 2 friends. :cool: Yes the 10mm is more expensive, and the .45 is far more practical. Personal choice. :cool:
 
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