Why Do People Constantly Complain About Glock's Grip Angle ??
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    Why Do People Constantly Complain About Glock's Grip Angle ??

    I've never understood this. And the more I hear it, the less I understand it, and the more foolish it sounds. All this complaining how Glock pistols have, "the wrong grip angle". What is a right one? Just because something is different than what you're used to does not make it, "wrong". I hear these people constantly complain that when they point a Glock they're looking at the top of the slide, instead of the sights. And somehow because of that the grip angle is, "wrong". Well how about this for a novel idea... Move your wrist so the sights are actually where they're supposed to be.

    These same people don't complain when they transfer from a Ruger or Colt single action to a semi auto. Why not? The grip angle is far more acutely different. It seems they only whine when it's a Glock. It makes zero sense. The 1911 grip angle (all 1911 variants, Springfield XD, etc.) is more nearly square to the slide (about 18 degrees off square), while the Glock grip angle (Luger, Steyr M series, H&K P7, Ruger Mk II, etc.) is more raked (about 22 degrees off square). Are these people really trying to say they can't shoot the gun properly because the grip angle is different by only 4 degrees? That's ridiculous. If you don't like the looks of the gun, that's fine. If you think it's too expensive to fit you're budget, that's also an acceptable reason to not want one. Even if for some reason you like your pistols with 27 different levers, buttons, and grip safeties. I can understand that. But to whine about the grip angle is just plain foolish. People aren't born with fused wrist joints. I own all but countless handguns in most every conceivable action type, size, and grip. I can go from one to the other by simply adjusting my grip and my wrist to suit that particular handgun.

    And it's not as if Glock just decided to manufacture this pistol on a whim, without giving any thought to the grip, or the angle. Gaston Glock consulted many doctors, and did many studies concerning the physiology of people and the use of their hands before settling on the grip angle of the Glock. I'm not trying to start a flame war here, but it would seem after all of that, along with the fact millions of Glock handguns have been successfully put into service over the last 30 years, that there is nothing "wrong" with the grip angle. Only with the shooters who cannot adjust to using the gun properly.
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    I'm with you. The grip angle complaint usually comes from people who are ready to blame the gun rather than their own abilities. "Can't be me, it's gotta be the gun". Or the sights. Or I need a hardware upgrade. Or...
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    Why Do People Constantly Complain About Glock's Grip Angle ??

    I have many other pistols with the more common grip angle but the Glock Grip angle does not bother me at all and I shoot several times every week.
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    Quote Originally Posted by billt View Post
    I've never understood this. And the more I hear it, the less I understand it, and the more foolish it sounds. All this complaining how Glock pistols have, "the wrong grip angle". What is a right one? Just because something is different than what you're used to does not make it, "wrong". I hear these people constantly complain that when they point a Glock they're looking at the top of the slide, instead of the sights. And somehow because of that the grip angle is, "wrong". Well how about this for a novel idea... Move your wrist so the sights are actually where they're supposed to be.

    These same people don't complain when they transfer from a Ruger or Colt single action to a semi auto. Why not? The grip angle is far more acutely different. It seems they only whine when it's a Glock. It makes zero sense. The 1911 grip angle (all 1911 variants, Springfield XD, etc.) is more nearly square to the slide (about 18 degrees off square), while the Glock grip angle (Luger, Steyr M series, H&K P7, Ruger Mk II, etc.) is more raked (about 22 degrees off square). Are these people really trying to say they can't shoot the gun properly because the grip angle is different by only 4 degrees? That's ridiculous. If you don't like the looks of the gun, that's fine. If you think it's too expensive to fit you're budget, that's also an acceptable reason to not want one. Even if for some reason you like your pistols with 27 different levers, buttons, and grip safeties. I can understand that. But to whine about the grip angle is just plain foolish. People aren't born with fused wrist joints. I own all but countless handguns in most every conceivable action type, size, and grip. I can go from one to the other by simply adjusting my grip and my wrist to suit that particular handgun.

    And it's not as if Glock just decided to manufacture this pistol on a whim, without giving any thought to the grip, or the angle. Gaston Glock consulted many doctors, and did many studies concerning the physiology of people and the use of their hands before settling on the grip angle of the Glock. I'm not trying to start a flame war here, but it would seem after all of that, along with the fact millions of Glock handguns have been successfully put into service over the last 30 years, that there is nothing "wrong" with the grip angle. Only with the shooters who cannot adjust to using the gun properly.
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    If its dark, and I have to point & shoot @ bad guy, I'm grabbin for the 1911. More natural pointing design & better trigger. But it is 38 oz, single action and only holds 7 rnds. (and I ain't carrying that thing cocked & locked while its pointing at my jim-jim).
    Have a Walther PPQ M2 with a far better factory trigger than any of my Glocks (and I have polished the innerds and put 4.5# connectors in them). But it is wider than the glock, mags cost 2x, 17 rnd mags are "odd". etc.
    Point being - there is no perfect gun, people like to mess with stuff, the glock grip angle is a few degrees from ideal for most people and it's something they can't change too much, so they bitch....don't need Scotland Yard for this one.
    But I own 1-1911, 1-Walther and 4-Glocks....what does that tell you. (lighter, hi capacity, cheap mags, reliable, no protrusions/unnecessary controls, simple design/fewer parts, affordable, size & caliber selection, military/police track record, etc.) They got a lot of things right back in the day and most striker polymer pistols that have come out since are very similar.

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    I don't think either is better... They're just different... If you shoot one a lot and change to the other, you'll find it odd for a while...

    This doesn't affect plinkers very much... just adjust your aim until the sights line up and pull the trigger...

    However, if you shoot competitively, or practice self defense shooting, the different grip angle makes it difficult to shoot accurately with speed...
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    Hold your gun like this. Take shooting lessons from a competition master, and get the fundamentals of stance, grip, sight picture and trigger control under your belt. Then you'll be throwing doubles in no time at all, Grip it and Rip it.

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    If I Grip my Glock and point it at a target the sights are perfectly aligned. The grip angle works perfectly for me. I shoot them better than any other handguns I own. Works for me.

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    Why Do People Constantly Complain About Glock's Grip Angle ??

    Cause they don't have anything better to complain about.
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