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    Empty mag not dropping from g23 gen 3

    Did an advanced search on this topic and no luck so here is my problem.

    Empty mags will not drop when mag release pressed.
    I have to grab the bottom of the mag to clear the magazine.

    I have watched numerous videos showing everything from heat added to the frame to
    sandpaper smoothing out the magwell.

    This obviously isn't a concern at the practice range but would be if it came to
    a self defense situation.

    I hate to throw this comparison out there but my Ruger 1911 drops the mags
    free with no problem. Of course this might not be a fair comparison since the 1911 is
    all steel vs plastic.

    Does anyone know of a fix for this ??

    BTW my Glock has over 1000 rounds through it.

    Thanks!

    Nick
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    Is the notch at the top of the mag, at the primer end of the bullet, round or square.
    It must be square to be a drop free mag. A rounded notch would a 'European style' mag where either by preference or law they do not use drop free mags.
    if they are square then you do have an issue. If it's a new weapon, I would call Glock and get their input on repair or replacement.

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    The notch is square and the gun about 2 years old with over 1000 rounds through it.

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    The mags will drop free every time if I rotate my hand to the
    right before depressing the mag release.

    Also if my strong hand middle finger is covering the opposite side of
    the mag release it will create enough resistance to prevent the
    release from functioning.

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    Strong hand = right hand? You are releasing with your thumb? I'm trying to visualize what rotating your hand to the right might be doing.

    It sounds like mag catch isn't being fully depressed if a grip change is all it takes to cause them to drop free.

    I had a class instructor teach when pulling the gun into the body and rotating it for a mag change to put some snap in the wrist when rotating it. This helps ensure the mag gets enough momentum to clear the pistol.

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    Correct. Right hand shooter, depressing mag catch with right hand thumb.
    I found that if I keep my hand in a normal grip position, firing position, I can't get enough
    pressure on the mag catch to release the magazine.
    I have normal, "large" palm size but my fingers are short.

    With my 1911 i don't have to break my grip to release the mag and that
    is what I have been trying to do with the Glock but can't.

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    Some ideas you could try:

    Extended mag catch - The Glock factory Gen3 extended sticks out too far (my opinion) for a carry gun, it tends to get bumped by my holsters and drops the mag. Vickers makes one that's a much better length TANGODOWN VICKERS GLOCK® EXTENDED MAGAZINE RELEASE | Brownells It extends enough to get better pressure but not so much that it get's caught/bumped. Glock store makes a Gen3 catch that bolts a large flat button onto the end of a Glock catch. I've never tried this one so no opinion on it's value.

    Extended base plate - Vickers and I'm sure others make extended base plates for Glock magazines https://tangodown.com/shop/vikers-ta...g-floor-plate/ These create a ledge that extends slightly beyond the pistol's grip. They are popular with competition shooters as it's very natural motion when taking the weak hand off the gun during a mag change to slide down the gun and hit the baseplate with the side of the hand and knock it out of the gun. I haven't tried carrying a gun with these installed as I use Pearce +1s on my carry guns. I believe it would print a bit more but probably not enough to really matter.

    More wear on the gun - 1,000 rounds is not a lot of usage for a Glock, especially if it's spread across multiple mags. Personally, I would take one mag and shove it in and out of the gun a few hundred times while watching TV. I would not be gentle doing it.

    Minor modification - If you're going to try modifying something, I would choose the mag catch itself, they're only about $4 to replace so you can experiment on a spare. Sanding a little of the side catching the mag to shorten it can probably be done and still maintain reliability - test fully before using for SD. There's no reason to risk messing up a mag or much worse, a frame.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MtStream View Post
    Some ideas you could try:

    Extended mag catch - The Glock factory Gen3 extended sticks out too far (my opinion) for a carry gun, it tends to get bumped by my holsters and drops the mag. Vickers makes one that's a much better length TANGODOWN VICKERS GLOCK® EXTENDED MAGAZINE RELEASE | Brownells It extends enough to get better pressure but not so much that it get's caught/bumped. Glock store makes a Gen3 catch that bolts a large flat button onto the end of a Glock catch. I've never tried this one so no opinion on it's value.

    Extended base plate - Vickers and I'm sure others make extended base plates for Glock magazines https://tangodown.com/shop/vikers-ta...g-floor-plate/ These create a ledge that extends slightly beyond the pistol's grip. They are popular with competition shooters as it's very natural motion when taking the weak hand off the gun during a mag change to slide down the gun and hit the baseplate with the side of the hand and knock it out of the gun. I haven't tried carrying a gun with these installed as I use Pearce +1s on my carry guns. I believe it would print a bit more but probably not enough to really matter.

    More wear on the gun - 1,000 rounds is not a lot of usage for a Glock, especially if it's spread across multiple mags. Personally, I would take one mag and shove it in and out of the gun a few hundred times while watching TV. I would not be gentle doing it.

    Minor modification - If you're going to try modifying something, I would choose the mag catch itself, they're only about $4 to replace so you can experiment on a spare. Sanding a little of the side catching the mag to shorten it can probably be done and still maintain reliability - test fully before using for SD. There's no reason to risk messing up a mag or much worse, a frame.
    Thanks very much for all of the suggestions.
    I have already installed the Glock Store mag release button and it was definitely an
    improvement over the factory mag release.

    I'm going to have to work out something concerning my short, stubby fingers and your suggestions
    should be a great help.

    Looking at the frame of the gun, and all double stacks for that matter, I have always had an
    issue with pressing the mag release.
    Until I started carrying daily and thinking about self defense this wasn't a concern.

    Thanks again for your excellent ideas.

    Nick--West Virginia

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    Per the OP's statements in this thread, there's nothing wrong with the G23 or mags.

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    Another idea I did for a friend is to dremel around the mag release. He didn't complain about the mags not dropping but he didn't like the need to reposition the strong hand to press the mag release. It let him push the standard release button easier. He showed me a you tube video of the mod. It looks like a way to get the same results as an extended release without the issues MT explained. He did not like the idea of an extended release. But it's a permanent alteration he didn't mind. He also had me remove the finger grooves and stipple the grip.
    Just another idea.

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