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    Question Moving Away.....from Freedom Munitions

    In another forum, I'm told that Freedom Munitions is not a reliable munitions vendor. I hear that
    their ammo is under powered and various other complaints etc etc.

    My G17L, a new gun, was not functioning reliably recently on it's very first outing to the range. I was told to get better ammo and
    keep shooting it.

    Well, I'll be. I go and order some NATO ammo that came on the market (casings have NATO mark).
    I go back to indoor range and shoot that 17L. Dam, this is a neat gun, I say to myself. It's overall weight. The
    standard Glock trigger is lighter I see..... I like this gun I say to myself.

    (ADD: I also say to myself I want some more of these G17L's
    and possibly 17's altogether-only have (1) 17 or two counting the 'L' model in my Glock inventory

    Well, before, when I had issues with the gun (17L), I was using Freedom Munition ammo, in three different weights.
    I have quiet a bit stocked up. I go and buy this NATO ammo from a major manufacturer, and the gun runs without hiccup.

    Do I attribute this to the ammo???

    What say you?
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    I'm not familiar with Freedom Munitions but if it were me, since you said it's a new pistol I'd try several different brands just to see and then go back to FM. If it's all good I'd say there was was a break in/parts wearing in/etc issue but if it still chokes on FM I'd say it's an ammo issue.
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    My 17L needed some break-in. It's running Freedom 147gr remain (which is VERY soft) just fine now. The 147gr barely clears my wrist with the 17c but I haven't had a failure. 135 and 124 have more speed so their brass ejects normally.

    I haven't been shooting as much this year, probably only about 2k rounds so far - all Freedom Munitions. Shot about 6k of it last year. I've had 3 or 4 rounds total out of all that that had an issue - one had pushback and I can remember if it was 2 or 3 rounds in one box had the primers backwards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by awp101 View Post
    I'm not familiar with Freedom Munitions but if it were me, since you said it's a new pistol I'd try several different brands just to see and then go back to FM. If it's all good I'd say there was was a break in/parts wearing in/etc issue but if it still chokes on FM I'd say it's an ammo issue.
    Thanks. I started with Freedom back when I started buying Glocks a few years ago. When I think back, I have had issues with a few
    new Glocks; a G26 and a few gen 4 G19's (I have an assortment of G19's).

    I did not have any issue with any .45, 10mm or .357 (I have zero love for .40) in my inventory.

    So, I don't know if Freedom ammo is an issue or not. I don't use it for carry, just plinking.

    But, one thing is sure; that NATO ammo, the G17L eats it like candy.

    Thanks for your reply.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MtStream View Post
    My 17L needed some break-in. It's running Freedom 147gr remain (which is VERY soft) just fine now. The 147gr barely clears my wrist with the 17c but I haven't had a failure. 135 and 124 have more speed so their brass ejects normally.

    I haven't been shooting as much this year, probably only about 2k rounds so far - all Freedom Munitions. Shot about 6k of it last year. I've had 3 or 4 rounds total out of all that that had an issue - one had pushback and I can remember if it was 2 or 3 rounds in one box had the primers backwards.
    Thanks MT. I have read so many threads about the G17L needs to break in. That's why, on the first outing with it, I took three different weights
    along with three different round (bullet) types. RN, HP and XTP, all NEW ammo from freedom. The only reload I buy is .223 FMJ 55gr. And i always examine the round
    prior to loading those.

    My stored AR ammo is IMI 5.56 62gr AP (XM855 I think it is). That's how I found the NATO ammo in 9mm.

    I really like the Winchester NATO 124gr. There is still some available on the market and I think I'll get some more.
    It's not much more $ over Freedom either.

    I may slowly replace the Freedom stuff with the name brand stuff. Way too costly to do it in one swoop.

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    My new 17l, like every other Glock I've owned, didn't require breaking in. I'm just a really lucky guy, I guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WalterGA View Post
    My new 17l, like every other Glock I've owned, didn't require breaking in. I'm just a really lucky guy, I guess.
    I was referring to threads I've read, Walt. I do NOT really think any Glock (not any I've seen anyway) needs break-in.
    Maybe the triggers wear in some and smooth up with use.

    So, I'm just looking at my ammo choice here. Why would a gun that does not require break-in not fire as designed with certain ammo?
    Most of my Glocks take anything I load.

    The only issue I have ever had is with 9mm guns; this 17L, a couple 19's in gen 4 and my 26 g4 first time out.
    My 19's in gen 3, new, not a issue. No issue with gen's 3, 2.5 or 2 used guns. No issue with G34 g4.
    I've never shot (3) of my (new) Glocks in the safe I got that first summer; my 17 g4 or two other new gen 4 19's (they match a tornado grey AR build I did).

    In the other calibers I have, including: .357, 10mm and .45ACP- NO problems; not iota hiccup. No issue with the .44mag (using Freedom's ammo) or AR's either.

    So, in my outlook, I don't care for finicky guns. But, I think I'll standardize my ammo to start.

    I'm gonna start learning the art of rolling my own as soon as a friend is ready. I plan to begin using the Dillion (sp?).

    I find it strange there are so many who view Freedom negatively; even on the AR forum.

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    Well, I don't have any Freedom Munitions, so I can't weight in on the ammo. I can say that a Glock that won't cycle a certain brand of ammo, then it's probably the ammo.
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    I have shot a very large amount of reman Freedom 9mm (115, 124, 147 - both FMJ and HP) in a number of Sigs (320, 225, 229 and 226) and my G19.

    I have not had any issue at all in any handgun with it.

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    Well I've never had any trouble with their ammo I've shot thousands of 115gr,124 and 147 9mm through my G19 and L120 over the last 4years,.
    One time I opened an order and I said "DAMMIT" My wife came over an asked what was wrong I held up the box and said they sent me girl bullets, they had sent some of that breast cancer awareness packaged In that white with pink trim on It....I thought she was going to piss herself she was laughing so hard

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