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    Upgrades for 4th Gen 19


    Howdy all. I bought my first Glock yesterday and am very excited. As usual with my new guns, I like to look for part upgrades to make it fit me better and more fun for me to shot. I'd love the expertise of people on this forum to help me pick out what I need.

    I wanted to get an extended slide release and an extended mag release. What are the best options for these two? I see a few different websites on parts so I'm not sure what to buy.

    I was also thinking of new trigger springs. ZEV Tech makes a competition kit the Glockworx sells. Is it any good? Is there a better option?

    And I'd like to get some grip decals. Are the all the same from venders or are the differently cut from different vendors. Only pictures I find seem to be of the package itself, not the decals.

    Thanks for the help!

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    Intended use of this pistol please before I answer.

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    Personally, I'd go with the extended slide stop and then go shoot it. While some of those upgrades you mentioned and many more can/may make the gun shoot/feel better, several people have come here complaining about the gun not functioning properly only to find out they had swapped that stuff out before firing the gun. The "upgrades" caused issues and when they went back to the stock parts, the GLOCK regained it's dependability.

    At least get several hundred rounds through it for function checking before you star swapping out all those internals so you know how the gun shoots. I bet you'll like what you already have. The extended mag release cuts into my hand when shooting matches or a heavy day at the range and although I originally swapped them out, I have put my standard mag release back in.

    As far as grip decals, I cut some skate board tape and put it in certain areas. I took most of it back off shortly afterwards but have left a piece on my strong side for my shooting hand palm.

    For a competition trigger, we have a site supporter that sells an awesome trigger kit. It is not recommended for carry, as most trigger kits aren't. Good luck and welcome to the forum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheLaw View Post
    Personally, I'd go with the extended slide stop and then go shoot it. While some of those upgrades you mentioned and many more can/may make the gun shoot/feel better, several people have come here complaining about the gun not functioning properly only to find out they had swapped that stuff out before firing the gun. The "upgrades" caused issues and when they went back to the stock parts, the GLOCK regained it's dependability.

    At least get several hundred rounds through it for function checking before you star swapping out all those internals so you know how the gun shoots. I bet you'll like what you already have. The extended mag release cuts into my hand when shooting matches or a heavy day at the range and although I originally swapped them out, I have put my standard mag release back in.

    As far as grip decals, I cut some skate board tape and put it in certain areas. I took most of it back off shortly afterwards but have left a piece on my strong side for my shooting hand palm.

    For a competition trigger, we have a site supporter that sells an awesome trigger kit. It is not recommended for carry, as most trigger kits aren't. Good luck and welcome to the forum.
    Thank you for the input. I guess I'll put some rounds through it before swapping pieces. I have smaller hands so I didn't think that the extended mag release would hurt. Maybe I'll hold off on that.

    Is there any trigger parts that help improve the trigger pull without lessening the pull so it's ok to carry?

    Also, I forgot to mention that I was looking into getting a tungsten or steel guide rod with new spring. From what I read online and was told at the dealer was that the Gen 4 spring makes the gun less smooth to fire. Is the new guide rod worth it?

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    The early Gen 4s had some issues. They have made a replacement Recoil Spring Assembly and will send them to GLOCK owners for free if you have one of the early models. The latest Gen 4s have the new spring in them from the factory but a dealer might have had an inventory of the older models when you bought yours. If I am not mistaken, the new spring assembly has an 04 on the end. Do a search as there is plenty of info from people that have actually had to deal with the issue on this forum. I personally stick with the Gen 3s, purely by preference.

    I put a GHOST 3.5# Trigger Connector in my everyday carry. It helped me a bit on jerking the trigger. I do use it in my EDC. I am building a competition gun to shoot some events with that I will put a full trigger kit in. .

    I would say my hands are average, and initially I thought I had issues dropping the mag with the standard release but after watching a Magpul DVD on Dynamic Handgun fighting, I saw a technique they teach on how to drop the mag a different way than I had been doing it. It's hard to describe but as you pull the firearm back up into your "workspace" (near your face, so the firearm stays in your line of sight of your target/threat) with your support hand index finger, you pull the firearm towards the left (right hand shooter) slightly so to make for easier access to the mag release. Since seeing that, and practicing with it, I've put my standard mag releases back in and haven't looked back.

    I am not the person to ask about tungsten guide rods and all of that stuff as I just don't think they are necessary. GLOCK built their firearms with the recoil springs that come with them, they have guns that have shot hundreds of thousands of rounds with the factory recoil spring assemblies and they are so cheap that you can replace them every couple of thousand rounds without any issue. Maybe someone else can chime in that has actually had some experience with them. Good luck!
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    I'll have to take a look at the spring assembly when I pick up the gun. If it's the older spring I just contact Glock for the newer spring? I think I'll just go with the extended slide release and some grip tape and maybe new sights. And leave the rest until there is a problem. I did buy the Glock for the reason I know its a trustworthy pistol.

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    Yep, you just contact GLOCK and they'll send you out a new one. I'd say that you will be much happier, and Richer to leave it mostly stock and shoot the heck out of it. Spend all the money on extra ammo and have a blast.
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    TheLaw pretty much has this under control but here's my "summary" ...
    Things you can do on a carry gun without running into reliability or safety issues...
    change the sights (I recommend Ameriglo brand night sights)
    put an extended slide stop on it (GLOCK OEM part available through Brownell's)
    if you feel it necessary to put a different connector I would suggest one of the following ... GLOCK OEM minus connector, Ghost Ranger 4.5#, Ghost Ultimate 3.5# ... all of these are safe for a carry weapon
    grip or skateboard tape if you feel it necessary, however, the Gen4 texture is pretty aggressive already
    IF you want a smooth trigger rather than the serrated one get one off a Gen4 G17 and swap it out

    Now, for the stuff to leave alone ....
    ext mag release button (GLOCK doesn't make an extended one for Gen4 guns yet that I've seen nor have I seen an after market one I would trust)
    guide rods, recoil spring assemblies, trigger springs, etc. should NOT be touched on GLOCKs if intended use is as a carry or HD weapon

    Now, after market competition trigger setups ....
    If this is to be used purely as a game gun and never stuck in your carry holsters then have at it. I recommend the GlockTriggers.com Edge or Challenger kits. They are awesome.

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    I'd shoot the stock gun first to make sure it functions properly, that way if you modify the gun you're not left wondering if it is indeed a modification that's causing malfunctions.

    As far as I know there are no aftermarket or factory extended options for Gen4 magazine catches.

    Here are some videos that show how to detail strip and change parts on Glocks:

    Here's a video showing how to change the mag catch: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oE_AM6GWVsQ
    I'd wrap the screwdriver lightly in electrical tape so it doesn't scratch any plastic. If you need to change the mag catch spring, you can use a pair of needlenose pliers to pull the spring out and push the new one in, I'd wrap the pliers lightly in electrical tape as well.

    Also here are some videos showing detail strip:
    Detail strip 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fExL6MIq4Fc
    Detail strip 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgnrRDtfq68
    Reassembly 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trpniw70xA4
    Reassembly 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBh1zpTbiKs

    Slide Stop(Slide Release) change/install: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQbYqWBLa9w
    (^^^DO NOT use a mallet to force the pins, wiggle the slide stop until the trigger pin slides relatively freely through)

    Magazine disassembly: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpRquLIpolc

    Here's a source for Armorer's Manuals, scroll down to the "G" section and you'll find two or three for Glock: stevespages.com/page7b.htm
    Last edited by voyager4520; 02-22-2011 at 08:45 AM.
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