There is very little information available for these sights on the internet so I wanted to get a thread started on here for anyone who might be curious about them.
Jason Falla of Redback One Training Systems partnered with Hilton Yam of 10-8 Performance to create these sights. The concept was to take an already great platform created by Hilton Yam and "fine tune" it to make the ultimate set of combat sights for the Glock platform. The RB1 sights feature a .125" wide by .215" tall front sight with a small .60" tritium insert set as high as possible in the blade without any sort of distracting outline. The rear is a plain black sight with a .156" square notch, both front and rear sights have 40lpi serrations to reduce glare.
These sights are very similar to the 10-8 Performance sights, however only come in one configuration and size option and you must purchase them as a set. Some of the other main differences are the square rear notch, a slightly smaller and higher set tritium vial in the front, and the front has a slightly different side profile. I really like all these changes to the standard 10-8 sights and I think this setup definitely fills a niche for a lot of people out there. I placed an order on Tuesday and on Thursday they were delivered to my door by Fedex, excellent customer service in my opinion. For anyone who has any previous experience with 10-8 sights, the quality and craftmanship are both top notch.
Weather has not allowed me to shoot with these yet, but just from dry firing and a few presentations around the house I can tell that the .156" square notch in the rear coupled with the thin .125" front blade is going to be an extremely fast and accurate combination. I replaced a set of standard 10-8's with these, so the transition should be quite easy and after I get some trigger time I will report back with my "performance" impressions. For now here are some pictures.
The sights can be purchased here.
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Last edited by JBarbaresi; 01-14-2012 at 09:08 AM.
Good looking sights. Thanks for the post and pics...looking forward to your evaluation.
Nice set of sights... Similar dimensionally to the Sevigny Competition sights...
Let us know how you like them once you get to shoot with them...
"While the anti-gunners seem very concerned about the "one life" that your firearm might take -- they are not very concerned about the lives it will save." Jon H. Gutmacher, Florida Firearms - Law, Use & Ownership.
i've never used the sevigny before but everything i've read is positive. the 2 advantages i personally like of the RB1/10-8 over the sevigny are the lack of white outline on the front tritium (gives you some night capability but also closely mimmicks all black sights during the day) and the "shelf" on the front of the rear sight which allows for one handed slide manipulation on equipment. the "ramp" on the rear sight is one thing that deterred me from the warren and sevigny line-up on a carry gun, but if that is not a huge issue for you those are both very popular and well made sights also.
i've been shooting with 10-8s so there shouldn't be a huge learning curve other than the square notch instead of a "U", but like I said just from playing around the house the square actual seems a little more natural for my primitive brain anyways. i still have the 10-8s installed on my M&P, so i should be able to do some fairly good comparison and side by side shooting going forward.
Last edited by JBarbaresi; 01-14-2012 at 09:02 AM.
Looks good, nice sights. I to am looking forward to your review.
i meant to update this a while ago and never got around to it. i only have 500 rounds through my g19 since installing these 2 weeks ago, but i'm definitely digging this sight picture. i haven't done anything too crazy, just some minor plate and bullseye shooting in the backyard, but it was enough for me to order another set for my gen3 g19. hopefully they will be here tomorrow or thursday and i'll get them installed in time for some use this weekend.
as i suspected i am really favoring the wide square notch over the "U" notch of the 10-8s i was using previous, although i know some prefer the "U" so to each his own. i think the light bars on either side of the front sight are easier to distinguish with the square edges and i get better lateral accuracy at speed. it's almost like the front sight just wants to stay completely centered with so much light on either side of it, even with side to side transitions. POI on my g19 is just about 1-2" high at 25 yards and slightly lower at closer distances. I would imagine on a g17 these would hit dead on at 25 yards.
i look forward to using them at the beginning of march in my first IDPA match of the year. just need to decide if i want to start in SSP with the gen4 or move right to ESP with the gen3.
Last edited by JBarbaresi; 01-27-2012 at 09:00 AM.
I like the read on these. Thanks for posting and for the great pics.
the only information i could find on the internet was in the m4carbine forum. i'm not quite sure why these haven't picked up more speed other than being new and targeted at a specific genre of shooter. if i hadn't been familiar with 10-8's platform i probably wouldn't have found them. those who do have them are very pleased so far. the redback one team just got back from SHOT, i'm awaiting news on whether they will be expanding to any other guns.
those pictures are not great, but i appreciate it. it was raining that whole week and the lighting was pretty bad. i'm going to get a few better ones this weekend if the sun decides to show itself.
Very nice sight writeup... Especially the inclusion of the pictures...
I like the serration on the back of the RB1 sights... Very classy looking... The Sevigny/Warren rear sights are smooth, but have the back edge sloped backwards to reflect light down instead of back towards the shooter... I expect it also helps keeps the Sevigny/Warren sights price lower...
Scott Warren reportedly uses the rounded "U" shape of the rear notch to draw your eye to the center of the notch... I don't know about that, but I like the square rear notch better... Plus, Sevigny shoots pretty well and he uses the square rear notch...
"While the anti-gunners seem very concerned about the "one life" that your firearm might take -- they are not very concerned about the lives it will save." Jon H. Gutmacher, Florida Firearms - Law, Use & Ownership.