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    Always shoot to the left


    I carry a gun at work also and we go to the range for work twice a year. We shoot with a H&K 9mm and I shoot to the left with that gun also. I own two Glocks a 23 & 36 and I shoot to the left with these also at home. I took my time today and really concentrated and still shot to the left. I think it has something to do with my trigger pull, any suggestions?
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    aim to the right! :roll eyes:
    sorry, there's one in every crowd. You could adjust your rear sight to the right and it would take care of that problem.
    Check your trigger finger placement. Shots to the left for a right handed shooter indicate too little finger on the trigger. Check this thread...
    Shooting to the left and down a little bit

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    I feel your pain OhYeah I shoot a Glock 19 Gen 3 and have experienced the same issue. I have tried all the trigger finger adjustments as well as adjusting my rear sight to the right and I still get groups to the left. Group size is decent but always to the left even when I hold the sights to the right of the x :~?

    I'd be curious to know the status of your eyesight. I am 60 years old and wear contacts to correct for near sightedness and have some Astigmatism, and I have to wear reader magnifiers over my contact in order to read. I am way past the point of needing bifocals but hate to part with my contacts lenses because of their convenience for outdoor activities (boating, swimming, hunting & shooting in the rain, etc.)

    Having exhausted all the typical trigger and sight aspects I have decided to find an optometrist who shoots and can better understand my needs. My suspicion is that the Astigmatism may be at the heart of my problem. Just a possibility that I thought I'd share. Good luck figuring it out~~
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2340ohyeah View Post
    I carry a gun at work also and we go to the range for work twice a year. We shoot with a H&K 9mm and I shoot to the left with that gun also. I own two Glocks a 23 & 36 and I shoot to the left with these also at home. I took my time today and really concentrated and still shot to the left. I think it has something to do with my trigger pull, any suggestions?
    Don't move your sights...

    Make sure your trigger finger does not touch the frame of the gun while you are pulling the trigger...

    Make sure the heal of your support hand presses against the side of the grip...

    Make sure you have an even grip on the gun... When you shoot, the gun should rise and lower vertically... If it goes off to one side or the other... readjust your grip...
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    +1 __jb It is NOT your sights. As a instructor I would ask what type of grip and stance you are using? Which eye is your dominate eye? Do you shoot with both eyes open? Lastly have you tried keeping the trigger held back after the first round and letting off slowly until you feel the reset and then concentrate on sight picture and squeeze the next round and see if it goes differently. I will bet that you are pushing with your finger. If your rounds are left and up (10 o'clock) then you are pushing and anticipating the recoil. If you are left and low (8 o'clock) then you may just be jerking a bit. Keep us posted please and good luck.
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    Nothing to do with stance. nothing to do with grip. these have absolutely nothing to do with shot accuracy. Zero. you can hold the gun upside down and pull the trigger with a sharpie (been demonstrated in class) and as long as your sights are aligned properly and the trigger is pulled straight back smoothly, the shot will go where its supposed to.

    Now, grip and stance are more important to recoil managment shooting faster ect. But if you dont have the basic fundamentals of sight allignment and trigger control down, they both will do nothing to make you a better shooter.

    The best way to diagnose a shooter related issue like poor trigger control is a ball and dummy drill. Get some dummy rounds and have a friend load a full mag with a couple dummy rounds mixed in somewhere in the middle.

    Start shooting making sure that the front site post is centered in the rear sight and level on across the top. Start shooting approx one shot every few second. Im sure what you will find is when you get to the dummy you will see movement in that front sight. Most likely to the left and down. If thats the case. you have just diagnosed your trigger control issue.

    From there its focusing on that straight back trigger press.

    Just remember as far as acuracy goes, trigger finger placement, grip, stance, breathing, follow through and all the other BS is completly irrelevent. line up the sights and press the trigger the way it is meant to be pressed and your shot will go where its supposed to. The other stuff helps with you get that sight back on target for faster follow up shots.

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    You are all wrong. It's the OP's guns. He needs to send them all to me and get a bow and arrow.
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    I don't seem to sound trite but, have you considered taking a few coaching lessons from a QUALIFIED NRA instructor? PGA golfers all have swing coaches and all MLB teams have hitting coaches. Spending a half hour with a knowledgeable instructor can, in my opinion, can only help you with your predicament. Just a thought, I could be wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheLaw View Post
    You are all wrong. It's the OP's guns. He needs to send them all to me and get a bow and arrow.
    we should split them... i mean second opinions are always recommended right???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Denny_M View Post
    I don't seem to sound trite but, have you considered taking a few coaching lessons from a QUALIFIED NRA instructor? PGA golfers all have swing coaches and all MLB teams have hitting coaches. Spending a half hour with a knowledgeable instructor can, in my opinion, can only help you with your predicament. Just a thought, I could be wrong.
    I agree with seeking out a competent instructor but be careful. Just because someone is "NRA Certified" does not make them a good instructor. Infact, more often then not some of the worst instructors ive seen are NRA instructors. The NRA teaches little if nothing about diagnosing shooter related issues. Let alone how to correct them. Most knowledge they have about doing that comes from taking outside instruction from other instructors.

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