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    Quote Originally Posted by nmpops View Post
    You can put a finger on the trigger gurad but it really serves no usefull purpose. Work on your sight alignment to improve your groups. At 7 yards you should be able to keep the in the one inch neighborhood.

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    I will add that you might be shooting too fast to realize the potential of a premium handgun. Glocks are very capable of out shooting all of us offhand, so there is always room for improvement. So the next time your at the range do some precision drills with 1 " dots @ 7 yards or 2" dots @ 15 yards. Cut the dot exactly in half with the front sight or shoot 6 o'clock if thats easier. If I could out shoot my 17 I would quit work and shoot full time.
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    Great job, Chris. I will be trying it.

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    Another great thing that Chris has pointed out is the proper finger placement for GLOCKS. It should be noted that different firearms can shoot differently based on where the finger is placed on the trigger and everyone needs to do what is best for them but for most people, the proper finger placement is to rest the pad of the index finger on the trigger. Putting the index finger all the way in so that the first crease is on the trigger is often too much and will cause the shooter to "pull" the trigger to the right as the finger is depressed.

    Many GLOCK owners prefer the rounded triggers over the standard triggers now because they feel that the angled trigger lets the finger pull or push to one side.
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    I use the same grip described by Cohland, "thumbs forward". Excelent description!

    Since changing (a few years ago) I noticed improved groupings and faster times from holster to sight aquisition, and I feel the weapon more secure. About the finger in the guard, I can see no benefit in doing that, only possible negatives with finger pressure jerking the gun ever so slightly off target.

    To the OP, keep in mind that your friend was shooting a different weapon than you. The sig 226 is much heavier than your Glock and is a SA/DA action trigger. I would suggest you shoot his weapon and see if you get better results also before blaming your grip for the accuracy.

    I shoot my CZ SP-01 in one ragged hole at 10 yards, and I never got the same result from my G19!
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    SO when are you going to detail out the proper stance Chris?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheLaw View Post
    SO when are you going to detail out the proper stance Chris?
    Well, I'm thinking about it! The course we teach is something like basic action (competition) shooting for new shooters, so you need to take that into account. It's not defense shooting, not aimed at IDPA, so there are differences. We don't shoot from cover, we drop magazines with ammo in them on the ground, that sort of thing. I would take photos of one of our professional instructors (LE, ex NY State Trooper, a real pro).

    The basic stance we teach is:

    . feet parallel with shoulders, about shoulder width. This allows the shooter to swing left or right easily, useful for USPSA stages with multiple targets.
    . knees not locked, maybe slightly flexed, but not flexed so far that they put load on the thighs, since that will lead to fatigue.
    . back bent forward just slightly from the hips, definitely not bent back. We want them to lean into the recoil a little.
    . arms extended straight out, elbows may be locked (shooter preference). We find that if new shooters don't lock their elbows we tend to get limp-wristing and not much control of recoil.

    We also cover the draw (again, for action shooting, making sure that the shooter does not cover himself/herself when drawing), how to shoot on the move, and speed reloading.

    How does that sound?

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    Sounds good. Also sounds like you are a heck of a lot better shooter than I am.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dwpmusic View Post
    Sounds good. Also sounds like you are a heck of a lot better shooter than I am.
    Probably not! Remember the old saying, "If you can't DO, then teach."? Well, I am learning that I'm a better amateur teacher than I am an amateur shooter. Good technique, but the scores aren't so wonderful. But it's fun!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cohland View Post
    Well, I'm thinking about it! The course we teach is something like basic action (competition) shooting for new shooters, so you need to take that into account. It's not defense shooting, not aimed at IDPA, so there are differences. We don't shoot from cover, we drop magazines with ammo in them on the ground, that sort of thing. I would take photos of one of our professional instructors (LE, ex NY State Trooper, a real pro).

    The basic stance we teach is:

    . feet parallel with shoulders, about shoulder width. This allows the shooter to swing left or right easily, useful for USPSA stages with multiple targets.
    . knees not locked, maybe slightly flexed, but not flexed so far that they put load on the thighs, since that will lead to fatigue.
    . back bent forward just slightly from the hips, definitely not bent back. We want them to lean into the recoil a little.
    . arms extended straight out, elbows may be locked (shooter preference). We find that if new shooters don't lock their elbows we tend to get limp-wristing and not much control of recoil.

    We also cover the draw (again, for action shooting, making sure that the shooter does not cover himself/herself when drawing), how to shoot on the move, and speed reloading.

    How does that sound?

    Chris
    Sounds like another great write-up is on the way however, I was referring to more Weaver, Advanced Weaver, Isosceles, etc.. Just pictures and your detailed commentary on the Pros/Cons/Difference etc.. The real issue here is that the forum won't allow a user to click on your Reputation link more than one time, and you also have to select other people for reputation before I can come back and give you more "props" on your different postings. LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheLaw View Post
    Sounds like another great write-up is on the way however, I was referring to more Weaver, Advanced Weaver, Isosceles, etc.. Just pictures and your detailed commentary on the Pros/Cons/Difference etc.. The real issue here is that the forum won't allow a user to click on your Reputation link more than one time, and you also have to select other people for reputation before I can come back and give you more "props" on your different postings. LOL
    First, I need to point out that what I am writing is not something I invented, it was developed by the instructors in the training program. I just learned it well enough from them to write it down. This is NOT original work!

    I will see if one of the other instructors will pose for the photos, I might get a taker. After all, they could be famous (on Glock.Pro, anyway). Stay tuned, if I can get somebody to photograph I'll take the pictures and write it all up. This will be fun! Thanks for the encouragement.

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