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    Ross, can you please post a picture of the gun with a loaded magazine (dummy rounds are fine) inserted and seated in the magwell? No chambered round of course, just a loaded magazine. Full capacity if possible. What rounds (out of 15?) were malfunctioning? If you are able to take and post a picture, please have it to where the entire gun with loaded magazine inserted is visible.

    I want to see how much space is between the baseplate and bottom of the grip. If the magazine sits to low, it could cause the rounds to jam into the bottom of the feedramp as you stated above. This could mean there is an issue with your magazine catch.

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    Chris thanks so much for your RSA recommendation.

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    Ross;

    So much for the inexperience theory!

    If the RSA is at fault, it's because it's too heavy (strong) given the ammunition you are using. Since the gun is a Gen3, you can get a replacement light recoil spring, and maybe even a steel guide rod, from Lone Wolf or Wolff Gun Springs. I think a spring of 13 to 15 pounds would be ideal.

    By the way, make sure that the extractor depressor plunger (EDP) is inserted correctly. If it is, you should see the shiny metal end of the EDP pushing up against the back of the extractor. If you see the plastic end there, it's in backwards, and that can cause problems.


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    Sorry for the delayed response. As the old saying goes, 'how did I ever find time to work?' before I retired.

    It appears the EDP is inserted correctly.
    I will purchase a new (lighter) RSA and try that out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Purkeypilot View Post
    Ross, can you please post a picture of the gun with a loaded magazine (dummy rounds are fine) inserted and seated in the magwell? No chambered round of course, just a loaded magazine. Full capacity if possible. What rounds (out of 15?) were malfunctioning? If you are able to take and post a picture, please have it to where the entire gun with loaded magazine inserted is visible.

    I want to see how much space is between the baseplate and bottom of the grip. If the magazine sits to low, it could cause the rounds to jam into the bottom of the feedramp as you stated above. This could mean there is an issue with your magazine catch.

    Thanks in advance
    I have used Federal 115 fmj, Wolf 115 steel, blazer brass 115 and 124 fmj - so far. I've got some NATO 9mm, and WWB stashed away that I could try next.

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    Prior to the Glock repair a lot of the misfeeds seemed to end up with the bullets jammed crooked with their tips off to the left.
    After the Glock repair they seem to be jammed straight ahead with the tips down and primers up & vice-versa but not so much that they would be called stovepipes. God it's hard to describe.
    Next time I'm at the range I'll take a short video with my camera to capture exactly what is happening.

    Thanks for taking the time to help me out.

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    Almost forgot the pictures of the fully loaded magazine.

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    Ross, thank you very much for the great post, and awesome pictures. The spacing between the magazine base plate and the bottom of the grip looks pretty normal...I definitely see in the picture with the Wolf steel cased ammo, that the round is canted a little to the left, however not so much with the Federal brass. I'm at a loss on why it is doing that.

    I am confident that the RSA is not to blame with this problem. I'm not saying it's not possible, but the gun should run with the factory 18lb. spring without a problem. I run 115 gr. Federal Champion all the time in all of my Glock 9s and it's never been a problem.

    If there is any possible way you could take a short video like you mentioned, it may help a lot if we could actually see the failure mode. The bullet down, primer up does sound really weird.

    I will continue to think about the issue and post updates if I'm lucky enough to think of anything. Keep at it, and we'll get your Glock running reliably in no time! Good luck
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    With "ball ammo", most FTFs (fail to feed) issues are magazine related. Since your gun is new, I would suggest you load the mags to capacity and leave them loaded for a while. By all means, if you want to go shooting, do so, but if your pistol is going to sit for a few days, leave the mags loaded to capacity to "break in" the springs.

    Sorry you are having trouble with your gun. If you bought it new, don't pay the shipping if you continue to have problems... Just politely ask Glock's customer service to send you a shipping label. They will pick up the freight, I know, they have for me more than once...
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    Thanks for taking the time concerning yourself with my Glock. I agree - We'll get it up & running.
    I hope to get back to the range next week. I'll try WWB 115 and Nato 9.
    My wife will hold the camera if I promise to take her out for lunch afterward.
    Maybe I can even get her to do a little shooting now that the weather is warming up here in Michigan.

    Quote Originally Posted by Purkeypilot View Post
    Ross, thank you very much for the great post, and awesome pictures. The spacing between the magazine base plate and the bottom of the grip looks pretty normal...I definitely see in the picture with the Wolf steel cased ammo, that the round is canted a little to the left, however not so much with the Federal brass. I'm at a loss on why it is doing that.

    I am confident that the RSA is not to blame with this problem. I'm not saying it's not possible, but the gun should run with the factory 18lb. spring without a problem. I run 115 gr. Federal Champion all the time in all of my Glock 9s and it's never been a problem.

    If there is any possible way you could take a short video like you mentioned, it may help a lot if we could actually see the failure mode. The bullet down, primer up does sound really weird.

    I will continue to think about the issue and post updates if I'm lucky enough to think of anything. Keep at it, and we'll get your Glock running reliably in no time! Good luck

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    I hope to get out to the range next week so in the meantime I'll load up a couple magazines and let 'em sit.
    Thanks for the suggestion.
    As for sending the gun back to Glock again I swear to God Fedex acted like I was giving them a package of nitroglycerin instead of an empty disassembled inert firearm. Still, if I have to send it I hope Glock will take a turn paying shipping costs this time around.

    Quote Originally Posted by EdF702 View Post
    With "ball ammo", most FTFs (fail to feed) issues are magazine related. Since your gun is new, I would suggest you load the mags to capacity and leave them loaded for a while. By all means, if you want to go shooting, do so, but if your pistol is going to sit for a few days, leave the mags loaded to capacity to "break in" the springs.

    Sorry you are having trouble with your gun. If you bought it new, don't pay the shipping if you continue to have problems... Just politely ask Glock's customer service to send you a shipping label. They will pick up the freight, I know, they have for me more than once...

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    Ross, I had to send my G19 back for BTF and erratic ejection issues about two years ago. Made a quick call to Glock, explained the problem, and they emailed me a label and paid for shipping. I'm sure they'd do the same for you.

    Good luck, and be patient. You'll get this sorted out, and the G19 is definitely worth the patience.
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    New guy with new Glock 19 Gen 3

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