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    The past few months I've been looking at all these snazzy builds with slides milled for dot sights, milled to reduce weight, milled just because they look cool, etc and something that hadn't occurred to me caught my ear while watching a video the other day. The reviewer mentioned the milled slide cycling faster than the stock slide which makes perfect sense, I just hadn't considered that being a byproduct.

    The more I thought about it the more I wondered: where is the point that you start to outrun the springs and need to start changing the spring weights? I'm sure the more radical the cuts, the quicker you get to that point and I know that point will differ if you're running light or heavy loads.

    Is there a spring weight to slide weight ratio to go by? Do the red dots add enough weight to offset the reduction?

    Just some random musings that crossed my mind while I'm supposed to be working...
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    Quote Originally Posted by awp101 View Post
    The past few months I've been looking at all these snazzy builds with slides milled for dot sights, milled to reduce weight, milled just because they look cool, etc and something that hadn't occurred to me caught my ear while watching a video the other day. The reviewer mentioned the milled slide cycling faster than the stock slide which makes perfect sense, I just hadn't considered that being a byproduct.

    The more I thought about it the more I wondered: where is the point that you start to outrun the springs and need to start changing the spring weights? I'm sure the more radical the cuts, the quicker you get to that point and I know that point will differ if you're running light or heavy loads.

    Is there a spring weight to slide weight ratio to go by? Do the red dots add enough weight to offset the reduction?

    Just some random musings that crossed my mind while I'm supposed to be working...
    If its not this then its something else. lol I say bring it on. Its amazing what goes on in people minds and Yes it does affect the spring to a point. If you have more questions let me know.
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    Like I said, just random things that crossed my mind during the morning. And those were just the Glock musings. The other musings really don't need to see the light of day...

    That's a neat looking rig! Is that something like Cerakote or is it a hydro dip?
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    Thanks its actually DuraCoating This process is a two part chemical coating. Unlike other firearm finishes, it was created specifically for firearms. Other firearm finishes are “spin-off’s” from other industries.Name:  A0013095.jpg
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    Quote Originally Posted by awp101 View Post
    The past few months I've been looking at all these snazzy builds with slides milled for dot sights, milled to reduce weight, milled just because they look cool, etc and something that hadn't occurred to me caught my ear while watching a video the other day. The reviewer mentioned the milled slide cycling faster than the stock slide which makes perfect sense, I just hadn't considered that being a byproduct.

    The more I thought about it the more I wondered: where is the point that you start to outrun the springs and need to start changing the spring weights? I'm sure the more radical the cuts, the quicker you get to that point and I know that point will differ if you're running light or heavy loads.

    Is there a spring weight to slide weight ratio to go by? Do the red dots add enough weight to offset the reduction?

    Just some random musings that crossed my mind while I'm supposed to be working...
    Usually people that are cutting their slides to reduce weight are also performing other performance modifications and loading their own ammunition... Usually someone in this situation has an idea where they need to start spring wise... Start with an un-captured guide rod and a couple of springs in the area you're planning to use... plus maybe one or two up and down... springs are cheap... Try them at the range and see which springs work the best... see which spring feels the best... which one moves the muzzle the closest to the original POA for additional follow-up shots...
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    Duracoat, I always forget about that one. I'm not a fan of the battleworn look but that one has a certain sci-fi look to it that's appealing.

    Thanks jb I didn't realize uncaptured guide rods were an option. Still feeling my way through and learning all the different parts options available.
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    There is a balance with ammo, springs and slides. Something to do with equal and opposite forces and reactions or something like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fyrtwuck View Post
    There is a balance with ammo, springs and slides. Something to do with equal and opposite forces and reactions or something like that.

    And we'd have gotten away with whatever spring rates we wanted if it hadn't been for that pesky Mr Newton and his third law!
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    Quote Originally Posted by awp101 View Post
    And we'd have gotten away with whatever spring rates we wanted if it hadn't been for that pesky Mr Newton and his third law!
    Laws!? Who obeys the law anymore? Haven't you been watching the news.

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