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    How does the slide affect trigger pull weight?

    I was looking at aftermarket slides and one had this bullet point...errr so to speak....
    slide will help deliver a crisp 4 lb. trigger pull
    It's a complete slide except for the barrel and RSA. I'm guessing the striker weight, striker spring weight or maybe both have something to do with their claim? Is there something else I'm not considering?
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    Got a link? On the surface it sounds like BS.

    Many of the aftermarket triggers fall into the same category. They make a lot of claims but if you read through the smoke you'll see they're just a polished factory trigger w/a reduced weight connector being sold for enough money to pay for the fancy marketing

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    I'll have to find it again when I get home (stupid net nanny at work ) but it was on gunbroker and IIRC it was a PWS slide.

    Besides a flat trigger shoe and maybe tighter tolerances, I've wondered what the aftermarket triggers could get you over a polished factory unit. I've got a brand new in the package ZEV Ultimate kit simply because I was offered a screaming deal on it with some mags I was buying. Unfortunately the only Gen 3 I have is my EDC so it's not a candidate for that trigger swap (IMO). Actually that screaming deal is going to cost me big because it's the reason I'm looking at all the stuff to build a Gen 3 the way I want for range time fun!
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    I did an end around, see if this link works: Item 656616017
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    Quote Originally Posted by awp101 View Post
    I'll have to find it again when I get home (stupid net nanny at work ) but it was on gunbroker and IIRC it was a PWS slide.

    Besides a flat trigger shoe and maybe tighter tolerances, I've wondered what the aftermarket triggers could get you over a polished factory unit. I've got a brand new in the package ZEV Ultimate kit simply because I was offered a screaming deal on it with some mags I was buying. Unfortunately the only Gen 3 I have is my EDC so it's not a candidate for that trigger swap (IMO). Actually that screaming deal is going to cost me big because it's the reason I'm looking at all the stuff to build a Gen 3 the way I want for range time fun!
    Some people relocate the trigger pin... That changes the geometry and makes a lighter trigger pull... It's not legal in USPSA's Production division, but hard to detect... Some people heat up and bend part of the trigger assembly to reduce pre-travel... There are lots of tricks...
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    Quote Originally Posted by awp101 View Post
    I was looking at aftermarket slides and one had this bullet point...errr so to speak....


    It's a complete slide except for the barrel and RSA. I'm guessing the striker weight, striker spring weight or maybe both have something to do with their claim? Is there something else I'm not considering?
    I'm with MT on this, sounds like an exaggeration.
    The striker spring is already compressed before you squeeze the trigger so I can't see how it would help or hurt the trigger pull. Changes to the trigger spring and connector have the most direct affect on trigger pull.
    You didn't mention any changes to the trigger just a new slide. So unless something is changed there or mods that jb pointed out then I say they are blowing smoke.

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    Reading their add makes me even more suspicious. The price is more than an entire gun can be had for as well, hard to recommend taking a chance on one.

    As far as the zev trigger, I have one and love it but I'd never spend that much on a second one. Sounds like you got one at a more reasonable number. It will work in a gen4, the only difference is the bump and if you dont reverse the mag catch the bump doesnt matter.

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    Thanks, it's good to know I don't need my BS meter recalibrated.

    I've been pricing machined slides for a possible project so the price wasn't the first red flag. I figured if the slide had that much impact on the trigger pull, EVERY aftermarket slide manufacturers and vendors would be touting them.

    Didn't know that about the ZEV and Gen 4s, thanks.
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    The ad mentions that the slide is a complete replacement: to install it you would take off your current slide, remove the barrel and recoil spring, install them in the new slide, and put the new slide on your gun.

    If that's true, the new slide is fully assembled, and it has a striker spring installed. They could have just installed a light striker spring, and that could result in a lighter trigger pull.

    Or, it could all be BS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cohland View Post
    The ad mentions that the slide is a complete replacement: to install it you would take off your current slide, remove the barrel and recoil spring, install them in the new slide, and put the new slide on your gun.

    If that's true, the new slide is fully assembled, and it has a striker spring installed. They could have just installed a light striker spring, and that could result in a lighter trigger pull.

    Or, it could all be BS.

    Chris
    That was my original train of thought. Lighter spring, maybe a lighter striker like ZEV uses in their trigger kits or maybe both but since they don't list the components used it's hard to say if it's true or hype. I just didn't know if there was anything else in the slide that affected trigger pull.
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