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    ZEV Tech Magwell in Gen4 G35?


    Has anyone bought the "ZEV Tech Speed Feed Magwell 4TH GEN STAINLESS HEAVY" from Glockworx? I've got a Gen4 G35 coming in Monday which I'm going to shoot in USPSA limited, and I'll want to add a magwell to this pistol.

    If you have the ZEV Tech magwell fitted in a Gen4 Glock, please tell me about how it fits.

    I have a Dawson "Heavy-Super Ice Magwell" in my Gen3 G35, but apparently they don't have their Gen4 product ready yet. I've sent Dawson a message, if I hear anything encouraging I'll pass it along.

    By the way, I was able to place an order and get confirmed shipping for a Gen4 G35 last Friday, so some of them are now showing up at distributors. I guess whatever problems surfaced have been resolved.

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    I actually went shooting yesterday with a guy that had one for his glock 23. It looked pretty cool.. I thought it was a happy stick first but then i found out it was wider than a regular mag. he didn't have any malfunctions.
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    I've got a ZEV magwell on my Gen4 G31.

    Fits very nice.

    The only installation issue I had was the threaded hole in the plug (there's an allen screw that goes through the rear of the backstrap, into the plug, to hold it in place) wasn't threaded all the way.

    I could only get the screw in about 1/4 of the way...so like 3/16" of the screw was sticking out of the back of the grip. Not comfy!

    Fortunately, I had the right thread tapper so, I just tapped the thread all the way into the plug. Now that allen screw tightens down flush with the backstrap.

    After that, it went together fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Habious View Post
    I've got a ZEV magwell on my Gen4 G31.

    Fits very nice.

    The only installation issue I had was the threaded hole in the plug (there's an allen screw that goes through the rear of the backstrap, into the plug, to hold it in place) wasn't threaded all the way.

    I could only get the screw in about 1/4 of the way...so like 3/16" of the screw was sticking out of the back of the grip. Not comfy!

    Fortunately, I had the right thread tapper so, I just tapped the thread all the way into the plug. Now that allen screw tightens down flush with the backstrap.

    After that, it went together fine.
    Thanks, that's the information I needed. I'll give Dawson a couple of days to reply, and if they won't have a product on the market this month I'll probably go ahead with the ZEV.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheLaw View Post
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    ZEV Tech Speed Feed Magwell 4th Gen Brass Heavy

    Extended magazine wells, called “magwells”, are used (mainly) in competition guns to serve three primary purposes: to make it easier to insert a magazine into the pistol quickly, to add weight to the pistol to help control recoil, and to help correctly position the shooter’s hand high on the grip.

    The magwell being tested is, as of this writing, the only one I could find that will fit a 4th Generation Glock. Dawson has one in development, but that’s all I could learn from them, no date was offered. I wanted to buy the heaviest magwell I could get to fit my G35.

    The Glockworx website lists a product with an item number of “ZT-MAGWELL-4-BRASS-HV", which is one combination of what you can get when you follow the menu offerings for the “ZEV TECH SPEED FEED MAGWELL”. I chose the “4th Gen Small or Compact Frame” option under “Gun Frame”, the “Large” option under “Insert”, and the “Brass (Black Crinkle Powder Coat 60 Rockwell)” under “Magwell Material”. There were three choices for magwell material: aluminum, stainless steel, and brass; I thought that brass would be the heaviest of the three. The website offers no comparative weights, although it does say that the aluminum magwell with small insert weighs 3.3oz, and the large insert option weighs 4.4 oz. The brass magwell with the large insert and the two screws needed to install it weighed in at 7.2 oz. on my postal scale. A lot. Exactly what I wanted.

    There are four parts in the kit plus an Allen wrench for installation: the magwell, the insert, one socket head cap head screw for the magwell and one set screw for the insert.

    The set screw for the insert was screwed in when it arrived, so I removed it and proceeded to discover a limitation in the product: it won’t work with either the Medium or Large backstrap that came with your Gen4 Glock. If you can use the gun all right without one of those backstraps, you can use this magwell. If not, I guess you’ll have to wait for the Dawson part, or learn to adapt. I’m assuming that Dawson has recognized that problem and is trying to design a part that will solve it. Speaking for myself, I’m going to try to adapt to using the pistol without one of the backstraps. I wrote to Glockworx about this issue through the “Contact” link on their website, but I haven’t received a response yet. When they reply I will update this thread with their comments.

    With the set screw removed from the insert, I pushed the insert into the grip, and lined up the hole in the insert with the lanyard hole in the grip. Then, when I tried to install the screw, it didn’t want to go in. Hmm. So, I got out my handy tap and die kit, and discovered that the set screw was a 10/32 thread. I cleaned up the threads on the screw and ran a tap through the insert a couple of times. There must have been some brass chips left in there from manufacturing. After a couple of passes it all fit together fine, so I put the insert back into the frame, installed the set screw, and then put on the magwell and installed the cap screw.

    With the nice black crinkle finish it all looks pretty good, and it does add a lot of weight to the pistol, so I’m optimistic about how this will all work out. Overall fit and finish I would rate only as “Good” because of the little issue with the threads. If you get one of these and don’t have a tap and die set, locate someone who does. If you try to overpower the tight fit, you have a good chance of stripping the threads in the brass insert, and that would not be a good thing.

    I paid a total of $125.19 for the part, including $5.19 for postage: it was small enough to put in the mail, so Glockworx apparently charges you the minimum for shipping, which is a good thing.

    Overall, I’m satisfied with the part, we’ll have to see how it holds up in actual use. Photos follow.

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    Nice write-up colhand.

    Interesting that we both had the same issue with the threading on the brass plug. Different plugs too (I opted for the shorter plug).

    Mine was more than just brass chips in the threads from the manufacturing...it was clearly not threaded all the way.

    This is one of those problems that's very easy to fix...IF you have a tap-and-die set. If you don't, you're screwed (or should I say "set-screwed").

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    Quote Originally Posted by Habious View Post
    Nice write-up colhand.

    Interesting that we both had the same issue with the threading on the brass plug. Different plugs too (I opted for the shorter plug).

    Mine was more than just brass chips in the threads from the manufacturing...it was clearly not threaded all the way.

    This is one of those problems that's very easy to fix...IF you have a tap-and-die set. If you don't, you're screwed (or should I say "set-screwed").
    I noticed that we had a quality problem in the same type of part, but I didn't want to jump to an assumption with two data points. Still, it does start to suggest a problem area, and at the retail cost (!) you'd think they would fix it. I'm guessing (and only guessing) that they put the set screws in with some sort of air tool, so the assembler probably had no idea that it was going to be too tight, or even too shallow. I still have no response from Glockworx.

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    Sorry to bump this old thread. I picked up the SJC magwell for the glock Gen 4 and was disappointed. Really its to big for my hand, I have large hands and it cramps up my grip on my gen 4 35. The other big complaint I have is does not work well with Ardondo mag extensions. This looks like it has a smaller foot print, so thats good. But has anyone tried this with some extended mags, especially the Ardondos?

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    I use the Pearce PG19 magazine baseplates with stock magazines with my Zev Tech magwell.

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    Had to do some minor fitting with the baseplates to get them to seat properly with the magwell.

    But, I had the same issue with a Taurus PT99 (Beretta 92 clone) extended magwell. Seems to be par for the course if you run with an extended magwell.

    The factory mags with factory basepates fit fine, without any modifications...but they fit kind of "deep" into the magwell. Was sometimes inconsistent getting the mag to fully lock into place when you did a quick reload - you have to push on the bottom of the magazine, like with a finger or two, because the magazine base sits slightly recessed in the magwell.
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