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    New Glock owner here. Having a recoil spring problem with a gen4 G23.


    First of all, I love the forum and have already found a ton of useful information here, So thanks! I sure wish my first post wasn't about a potential reliability issue, though.

    I took my Glock to the range today and went through 150 or so rounds. No issues, gun performed flawlessly. When I returned home, I field stripped it and noticed that the butt end of the recoil spring had moved up and to the left side of the slide, almost touching the side. Upon removal of the spring I noticed that it was stuck at the business end and required some jiggling/tugging to break it free. Has this happened to anyone else? I'm not sure how concerned I should be because as I mentioned, the gun didn't hiccup and remained accurate at the range.

    After putting it back together, i racked it a few times and removed the slide to have a look. The spring remained centered, but the butt end had slid up near the very edge of the barrel's channel that it rests in. Not sure if this is normal.

    Any feedback would be greatly appreciated!

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    Do you have any way to take a few pictures of the plastic ends of your recoil spring assembly? This doesnt sound normal.

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    welcome!

    until some more experienced people post, here's my 2 cents. the butt end--I think you're referring to the part that sits in the half moon part of the barrel-- the position doesnt matter much when you're removing the slide. Making sure it's seated when you put it back on is more important

    as for the part that gets stuck, it sounds like the same problem as some of the early gen4'g17 recoil assemblies. There are several different recoil spring assemblies released for the Gen4 17 and 19's to address some issues, which includes what youre describing on the muzzle end of your spring. I havent been tracking the 23's though. Might be worth calling Glock if you havent already.
    Last edited by NWGlocker; 07-17-2011 at 09:37 PM.

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    The base of the guide rod slipping out of the crescent shaped notch in the barrel lug is normal. That notch is the reassembly notch, not the operating position of the base of the guide rod. When you put the gun together, the base of the guide rod doesn't even touch the barrel. When you take it apart, the base of the guide rod loosely finds its way back to the barrel lug.

    Just make sure you fully seat the base of the guide rod into that crescent notch before you reassemble the gun, even if you didn't take the barrel or guide rod out of the slide. Failing to do so could result in the guide rod ending up in the wrong place in the frame and make it very difficult to get the gun field stripped again.

    Now with the muzzle end of the guide rod, the plastic end cap and spring pinching the hole in the slide is normal with the Gen4's. I've never heard of it happening during firing, only during disassembly. Glock has redesigned the Gen4 guide rods numerous times, I'm not aware of any re-design for the Gen4 G23 guide rod, but Glock is redesigning all of the other Gen4 guide rods to have extra plastic around the inside of the muzzle cap to prevent this from happening. You can see this extra plastic in the 3rd and 4th pictures in this thread: http://glock.pro/showthread.php/3188...A-for-Gen4-G19

    I don't know if Glock has made a guide rod for the Gen4 G23 with that feature, but they probably will some time in the future.
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    Like others have said, Glock redesigned many of the 9mm 4th gen recoil spring assemblies. I'm not sure about the .40 RSA'a either...

    Call Glock on their main 800 number and ask for Technical Support... Explain the problem and they'll probably send you a newer RSA... no charge!
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    Thanks guys. Between your input and my research on the similar G19 issue, I'm not too worried about it. Seems like this is only a minor issue during disassembly. I'll contact Glock this coming week and see what they have to say about it.

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    Can you let us know what they say? I'm curious...

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    Quote Originally Posted by pistolcompetitor View Post
    Can you let us know what they say? I'm curious...
    I'll be sure and post what they have to say.

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    My slide has the recess and the guide rod is marked 0-3 with a 1 at six o clock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EdF702 View Post
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    Added to the genFOURum group.

    EdF702 you rock, thanks for summing up dozens of threads in one pic. Where did you find that?

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