I've got a gen4 G19 that erratically ejects empties.... It's got the "04-3" RSA and I sent it back to Glock to get the new 30274 ejector and no joy.....
Until today! I had a gen4 G17 that I bought in September 2010. It also ejected erratically, but I was able to fix that pistol by changing the RSA and installing a Lone Wolf extractor that I bought in November of 2010. I traded that pistol for a gen3 G17L and, you guessed it, it ejected erratically.
Obviously, the ejection problem with the G17L wasn't the RSA, so I swapped out the stock extractor with the Lone Wolf part from my "old" gen4 G17. It wasn't perfect, but the G17L ejected "good enough".
When I bought my gen4 G19, it came with the latest RSA and I figured the same "trick" with the Lone Wolf extractor would work again, so in October 2011 I ordered another extractor from Lone Wolf, installed it and.... It made my ejection problems worse! So, I put the gen4 G19 back to stock and called Glock for a shipping label.
Even after sending it back to Glock, I was disappointed with the ejection pattern even after sending it back to Georgia. My wife and daughters wouldn't shoot the G19 because of burning brass to the skin, face and top of the head.
Then, I read somewhere that Lone Wolf had been shipping .40 cal extractors marked as 9mm for a short time. I compared the 2 examples of Lone Wolf extractors I had, and while not dramatically different, the two parts were not "identical".
Sooooo, today, I swapped the "old" Lone Wolf extractor into my gen4 G19 with the updated 30274 ejector and off to the range I went. My erratic ejection is solved! All brass went into a small area 6 feet to my right at between 3:00 and 5:00!
I've ordered a .40 cal extractor from Lone Wolf for my G17L and between getting the "new" 30274 installed and the .40 cal Lone Wolf extractor, I believe my ejection "issues" there will disappear with my G17L as well!
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Ruger GP 100 3" .357 magnum
Ruger Vaquero .45 Colt
Ruger LCR .38 special
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Smith & Wesson Model 17-4 .22 LR
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Glad you got it worked out.
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From what I understand, the new ejector is matched to the latest RSA for each 9mm 4th gen Glock... Since you can;t put a dual coil 4th gen spring in a 17L, I might hold off on adding the new ejector...
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I have a 4th Gen G19 with erratic ejection issues and 3 FTE within 655 rounds. I have a 30274 ejector on the way to my CGA and hope to get it this week.
I'm interested in trying this out but was wondering:
Do I have to order the LW .40 cal extractor as it is back ordered?
Can I order the Glock OEM .40 cal extractor off the LW site?
Do I need to order the spring loaded bearing?
Thanks in advance,
Peace
My "testing" was done with a Lone Wolf extractor that was marked as 9mm, buy I suspect that it was the .40 model, I have another 9mm Lone Wolf extractor purchased more recently and it DID NOT work like the "earlier" version.
Mine is also "back ordered"....
I don't know about the OEM .40 version, I was curious about that as well. Perhaps someone has a .40 gen4 model and a 9mm gen4 with the ejection problem and can try that....
And no, your gen4 already has the correct "spring loaded bearing"...
Good luck, let us know how it works out for you.
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G19 gen 4, gen3 G17L
Ruger SR1911
Ruger GP 100 3" .357 magnum
Ruger Vaquero .45 Colt
Ruger LCR .38 special
Smith & Wesson Model 10-5 .38 spec
Smith & Wesson Model 17-4 .22 LR
Husqavarna 30/06
Winchester Super X model 1 12 guage
"Remember, we don't see things as THEY are, we see things as WE are"
You can call Glock and tell them that you have erratic ejection with your Gen3 G17L, they'll install a 30274 ejector into it as well. Of course they'll only send it to an Armorer, or you'd have to send the gun to them.
LoneWolf did have their extractors mixed up when they first started selling them. They were mistakenly selling .40 extractors as 9mm extractors and vice versa. They've since corrected that error, and the true 9mm extractors have a "3" cast into them, and the true .40 extractors have a "4" cast into them.
When people were using .40 LWD extractors in their 9mm Glocks and it fixed their ejection, they did not change the spring loaded bearings. Several people have since used factory Glock .40 extractors to fix the ejection in their 9mm Glocks and they haven't changed the spring loaded bearings. One guy I know of used a 90 degree .40 extractor in his 15 degree 9mm slide, he changed the spring loaded bearing to the .40 non-LCI version, and it fixed his ejection. The 90 degree extractor looks ugly in the 15 degree slide, but it technically works.
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G23 G27
Kinda odd that they could not just use 9 and 4 as identification, the 3 and 4 are sure to cause confusion when someone mistakes this for Gen 3 or 4 and the rumors abound and we will have three threads on whey the 3 and 4 do not imply the Generation but the caliber...
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UPDATE
I took the gen4 G19 and G17L apart last night to check for the markings on the Lone Wolf extractors. turns out my excitement with my "discovery" is BS.... The extractor in my "fixed" gen4 g19 is marked "2"... That is a stock Glock extractor!
My G17L had the Lone Wolf extractor and it was indeed stamped with a "4".... That is, it's the .40 cal model as I suspected. But, in the gen3 G17L that part didn't work well, as it was still ejecting erratically.
All was not for nothing though, I still have a stock Glock 9mm extractor and both a 9mm and .40 cal version by Lone Wolf so my next range trip I'll try 'em all to see which works best in my G17L. My guess is that it will be the Lone Wolf 9mm (#3) because the Glock part that came with the G17 had that pronounced "wave or dip" and really hasn't worked well.
The good news is the "factory fix" with the 30274 ejector works, it just took a few rounds to prove it to myself.
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G19 gen 4, gen3 G17L
Ruger SR1911
Ruger GP 100 3" .357 magnum
Ruger Vaquero .45 Colt
Ruger LCR .38 special
Smith & Wesson Model 10-5 .38 spec
Smith & Wesson Model 17-4 .22 LR
Husqavarna 30/06
Winchester Super X model 1 12 guage
"Remember, we don't see things as THEY are, we see things as WE are"
So does this mean that the 30274 ejector was the fix? Or did you modify the stock G19 extractor?
The 30274 was the fix.... That and a couple of hundred rounds. When I sent the gun in to Glock, I know that they changer the ejector, but I don't "know" if Glock did anything to the extractor or not. I "thought" that I had swapped the extractor to the Lone Wolf one before my last trip to the range because upon it's return from Glock with the new ejector the G19 still ejected poorly.
I went back and checked my "bench notes" and I had swapped out the stock extractor 200 rounds ago, right after it's first range trip upon returning from Glock where it was, according to my notes, the G19 was "improved but not 'fixed'".
When I put the stock extractor back in, by accident, the pistol performed perfectly. I think the pistol and the parts just needed some rounds through them and now the gen4 G19 is working very well.
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G19 gen 4, gen3 G17L
Ruger SR1911
Ruger GP 100 3" .357 magnum
Ruger Vaquero .45 Colt
Ruger LCR .38 special
Smith & Wesson Model 10-5 .38 spec
Smith & Wesson Model 17-4 .22 LR
Husqavarna 30/06
Winchester Super X model 1 12 guage
"Remember, we don't see things as THEY are, we see things as WE are"