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    Quote Originally Posted by Otintx View Post
    Should one not be trying to replicate the angle of a hand/grip/trigger finger angle to the trigger, to get a reading consistent to a shooting grip or is it the same force from both angles ?
    In theory, yes. The problem is that it's difficult to do with "normal" equipment since you are only pulling laterally across the bar with the equipment, and when you shoot, your finger adjusts vertically as well.

    That's why I do it the way I showed. The BIGGEST problem when measuring trigger pulls is getting a consistent reading. Chris did as great a job as I can imagine by actually crafting a finger replica to try and pull the trigger as consistently as possible. Even with his heroic efforts, he still got variance of almost a full pound measuring the same connector. I've highlighted what I mean below.

    Dot Pull Minus Pull
    Pounds Ounces Net Ounces Pounds Ounces Net Ounces
    5 12.5 92.5 6 2 98
    5 14 94 6 5.5 101.5
    5 14.5 94.5 6 8 104
    5 14.5 94.5 6 9 105
    6 2 98 6 11.5 107.5
    6 5.5 101.5 6 13 109
    6 6.5 102.5 6 14.5 110.5
    6 6.5 102.5 6 15.5 111.5
    6 7 103 7 0 112
    6 10.5 106.5 7 1.5 113.5
    Average 6 2.95 98.95 6 11.25 107.25


    I developed my technique specifically to try to minimize this variance as much as possible by pulling on the trigger where the variance would be the lowest (bottom), as opposed to where it would be the highest, which is in the middle. The reason is that if you change the angle, or don't stop exactly when the trigger pops, you will ad a lot of weight to the pull reading, and it's more evident when pulling from the middle.

    If you look back at my numbers, you'll see that the variance between my pulls with EITHER connector is only 2.5 oz. Also just a reminder that my spring weights are lighter and my connectors are tuned differently, so the VAST majority in pull readings between us is due to THE GUN being different, NOT the technique being different.

    Again, all I care about is the difference between the before and after pulls. Pulling from the bottom might not give you a true trigger weight where you actually pull from, but it's far more consistent and again (and most importantly) shows the difference between the 2 as accurately as possible.

    Another analogy would be if you weighed yourself at home and weighed 200 lbs., then went to the doctor's office and you weighed 208. The starting weights are different, but if you lost 5 lbs. it would be reflected in BOTH scale weights (195 and 203).

    Like I said, this technique works for me, and has proven itself over and over again. Some people like to measure from the middle, but I (along with most people doing trigger work) prefer to check the weight at the bottom for the reasons listed above.
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    if you are a glock amorer do i have to change the trigger springs down to a 3 1/2 pound trigger pull along with the trigger coonector to a 3 1/2 conectoer as well or can i use a 4 to six pound pull spring on the 3 1/2 pound trigger connecter and if you are a cop thank you for your service.
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    im sorry i should have said this is a model 10 glock with a factory threaded barrel , I really apprrciate our in put very much as I am disabled and had 5 full shoulder replacements in the past 2 1/2 years and my hands are very weak from it now

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    Changing the connector does not require a change in springs to get the lighter trigger pull effect. On the other hand, moving to lighter springs, I believe, can lighten the pull farther. I hope that you don't make these modifications to a self defense weapon because some results may be unpredictable, including misfires, etc.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dennis View Post
    im sorry i should have said this is a model 19 glock with a factory threaded barrel , I really appreciate your in put very much as I am disabled and had 5 full shoulder replacements in the past 2 1/2 years and my hands are very weak from it now
    thank you for your feed back its much appreciated
    Thank you Again
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