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    called it in as a accidental discharge

    Shit like this scares the hell out of me.

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    trigger happy

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    WTF... I feel sorry for the officer, honestly... he sounded like a Good Joe, but I an convinced the incident is a result of poor training. Good training, poor training... no training, your liable and responsible for every round that leaves the barrel, gotta own it.

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    11B - feel sorry for the officer are you serious?
    I feel sorry for the guy that got shot.
    I feel sorry for his friends and family that almost lost him.
    Thank God this was caught on video. Who knows
    what the cops VERSION of the story would have been.

    The cop calls it in as an accidental discharge (his version of what happened).
    He fired his gun TWICE. How do you accidentally fire your gun TWICE?

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    Things like this should never happen of course-- but it's just a sign of just how little training some officers receive.

    One trainer I worked with really emphasized keeping the finger far away from the trigger if you're in a ready position. Not just along the frame but high enough to the point the finger was on the ejection port (!). His reasoning is that with a disarm attempt, or if you're nervous out of your mind, adrenaline can make your whole fist seize up and your finger could slip onto the trigger.

    I didn't believe him at first but seeing negligent discharges like this makes me think twice about where to put my trigger finger.
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    Quote Originally Posted by G3G26 View Post
    11B - feel sorry for the officer are you serious?
    I feel sorry for the guy that got shot.
    I feel sorry for his friends and family that almost lost him.
    Thank God this was caught on video. Who knows
    what the cops VERSION of the story would have been.

    The cop calls it in as an accidental discharge (his version of what happened).
    He fired his gun TWICE. How do you accidentally fire your gun TWICE?
    Not to mention that the cop fired before the guy ever got the bike stopped. It also says the cop had his finger on the trigger when he drew his weapon. We all know the only time you do that, (finger on trigger) is when you "INTEND" to fire/shoot what your pointing at.

    I hope who ever it was recieved a 8 digit settlement.

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    Comeon guys !


    That could easily be me or you behind the trigger !


    Was it unintended ?

    Yes !

    Was it unnecessary ?

    Yes !


    But, it happens !


    I think we can all agree on the fact that he should not have had his finger inside the t/g ... Yet !

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    Twice? I never picked up on that. So the cop shot him twice? I need to go back to the video. It appeared to be a single sympathetic response.

    From what I saw the cop didnt intend on shooting him, but that doesnt matter, the guy got shot.

    I do feel sorry for the cop, and for the biker. And for a million other things that happen in this universe.

    Of course, its easy to be a backyard quarterback when none of us were there.

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    Anyone interested in learning about police shootings (by any definition including what happened in the OP), check out this article. Excellent reading and worth sticking with it.

    One quote: "A study of all firearms discharges in federal agencies (FBI, DEA, ATF) from 2000-2003 found that out of 267 total discharges, 102 of them were accidental discharges. Weapon handling skills and discipline are universally lacking."

    Dynamics of Police Shootings | Active Response Training

    My main point of all this is that it's too bad that many police agencies just don't have enough resources to get officers better training
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    Quote Originally Posted by NWGlocker View Post
    My main point of all this is that it's too bad that many police agencies just don't have enough resources to get officers better training
    My point exactly. Not a cop bashing statement, but... there is the common misconception that someone that earned a badge automagically is a good shooter, and that is simply not the case.

    From time to time, we have had an LEO come shoot USPSA with us, for the experience I guess.. they shoot rookie level. I presume ego is dented and they dont return, I have no idea... but mostly, the run of the mill LEO doesnt get the necessary training *or* experience to be a reasonable shooter.

    I do wish it were not so, these are the people we trust to protect us and they deserve better.

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