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    Greetings! New to Forum

    Retired after 23 years as a Army Combat Engineer. I have had a conceal/carry permit most of my life (maintained even when deployed). I have been using my Glock 17 as my main sidearm since the first Clinton about ruined us. The '17 has been reliable and easy to get to. I use a Supertuck as my main carry holster. I am getting a bit older now and its not as easy to carry that size pistol and keep it unseen. I have been contemplating several types but am a bit hesitant. The choice I want to go with is the G36, but am unsure at this point. I really like how the Glock 30 looks and feels. The weight I am not too worried about, typically I have a load out with Hornady FTX 115's. My problem now is the draw length and ability to conceal it. I am 5'9" and weight about 185lbs. Pretty standard body size, but after 4 deployments my back is a not so good anymore.

    On the Glock site I can compare the G30 4th, G30-S and the G36. Compared to the G17, they all seem to save just under 1.25" length, much needed for me on an IWB holster. What the comparison doesn't tell me is how different are these firearms? What is the draw back of these apposed to my G17? I am not worried about the aiming sites, I'll put 3dot Trijicons on the new weapon. Any help on this would be appreciated.

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    Welcome...from a retired E-9...Army also. I too am a little over 5'8 and 182 so about even. Another factor is where do you live. I live n Mass so when it get cold like this, I can conceal damn near anything short of a SW 500. If I am somewhere warm, this is more difficult

    I sometimes carry a g19 or a G30SF. The 30 is nice as it is compact but still has the punch of a .45. The good news is you can probably use the same holster

    The downside is the round count. The 30 is only 10 rds.

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    Ahhh , thanks for the welcome. I live in central Oregon but I travel about. I have the Utah/Ariz CCLs so "we" pretty much are welcome anywhere except Califorget-ya. the '30 is a nice little show stopper for a person wanting a bad day. True on the magazines, though even factory '17 mags run about $25 and as low as 18 if you shop around. I am not too concerned about magazine capacity. Granted, the 17+1 on my G17 is REALLY nice to have, but 10 rounds is far better then no rounds. I typically wear sweatshirts in the winter or a loose jacket. the summer just a loose shirt. I have never had problem with my G17. Its just now, with my back, its a little harder to draw the pistol smoothly. Even the just over 1inch less in length can mean the world of a safe, steady and fluid draw to a cumbersome and mildly painful event.
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    Welcome to the forum.
    I perfer the G19 when I can wear a coat and the 43 for when it's warm out.
    And thanks to both of you Doggies for your service.

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    Hey Gaz, Thanks for the Welcome!!!

    I just looked at the '43. Is it awkward in your hand with that shorter grip? I am not sure drawing it out of a holster that I would have positive control of the pistol. It just seems it might slop around in ones hand on one of those "I need it now" moments. What is your experience with it on a rapid holster draw to target acquisition? I have other pistols then my '17 and I "practice" drawing some 300-500 times in various positions before I even wear them. It might just be an initial thought that is overcome with the firearm's familiarity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Retired_E8 View Post
    Hey Gaz, Thanks for the Welcome!!!

    I just looked at the '43. Is it awkward in your hand with that shorter grip? I am not sure drawing it out of a holster that I would have positive control of the pistol. It just seems it might slop around in ones hand on one of those "I need it now" moments. What is your experience with it on a rapid holster draw to target acquisition? I have other pistols then my '17 and I "practice" drawing some 300-500 times in various positions before I even wear them. It might just be an initial thought that is overcome with the firearm's familiarity.
    All of my mags have Strike Industries + 2 extensions giving it a full grip and 8 +1 rounds.
    I can draw from cover and put all 9 rounds on an 8" target at 65 ft in 12 sec on average. Far from blazing speed but pretty good for what's consider a pocket pistol.
    But I prefer my 19 and off carry it when it's warm out and have the 43 on body.

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    Thanks again for your reply.
    I just looked up those extensions. It would seem those would bring the pistol height back in line with the 30-S. Is there any problem with the stock magazine springs once you extend them? I will say its a trade off as the 43 most assuredly wins out on the width and 1/4 pound less loaded. I can tell you 9 rounds on target in 12 seconds is not bad honestly. 8" is the size of ones center mass. I don't think you would need all 9 of them, the threat most assuredly was removed.

    You've given me a lot to consider and I do appreciate you sharing your experience with this pistol.

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    Welcome. I'm a old Army guy, but, I did not stay around to retire. I got out after a decade and went on the school, degree'd and left the service in a memory LOL.

    The difference your gonna find is not so much the length per se, but, the thickness. Just a small amount of thickness makes a lot of difference when IWB carrying.

    The .45's are thicker than the 9mm's. Something I do notice.

    The 30 is about the same size as a 19, except thickness. The 30 being thicker.

    Unless your just wanting to move to .45's, I would also consider the 19 and the 26. The 26 accepts all the 9mm double stack mags including the 17, 19 (and 18's 33/rounder).

    My favorite is the .45. I guess because of the old 1911's the Army had. So, I keep the 9mm and .45. The 19 is one of my favs as is the 21. You'll love the 21. The 30 is also a nice piece of work. I don't have a 36 or 41. Those are in the bucket list.

    Consider the 19 and 26. I carry the 26 using it's mag w/a +2 extension and two 17 mags as back up. The 26 is my daily go to. But, I own many 19's. I think their close to perfection in terms of over abilities.

    But, in .45, cannot beat a 21.

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    Hello and Thank you for reply.
    My 17 has been my baby, Its been closer to me then my wife. I just can't carry it confidently any longer. I was seriously thinking about a .45 for my next purchase, but I have gotten so many ideas here, now I'm not sure. I don't have the funds to get both calibers, the sights + extra mags, so the one I chose will have to be it for at least 6 months - probably longer. My main reason for joining here was to get ideas and I was thinking I would see none, at least not for weeks. I have some really good input from all of you. As I am accustomed to carrying a 9mm, perhaps I should stay on that track. I could start getting .45 ammo now and by the time I purchase one, I'll have a few thousand rounds and the magazines.

    I have a great home for my '17 when I finally retire her from my goto carry weapon. I took a quick release holster from a dropdown leg platform and mounted it under my home work desk. I have been using that for about the past 3 months and it sits about 4" above my right thigh when I'm sitting.

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