The P-01 and PCR do have decockers. Plus many of the fullsize models their .45 97BD does and the SP-01 Tacttcal does which is the one of the most accurate 9mm's i have ever shot. I see Angie has mentioned the polymer CZ's which i have never owned or seen. BTW, Buds has the Tactical on sale at a very good price. Its too big and heavy for carry but for HD and range cannot go wrong plus has night sights reason i mentioned the P-01/PCR first, d
Originally Posted by JROC
My CZ75b is the most accurate 9mm that I've ever owned. It also, for me, has the least amount of perceived recoil in 9mm, with the exception of my Glock 17L. When we figure out how to do the front sight on them (advantagetactical.com), we'll start sight kits for those, too. One of our Australian distributors had a gun smith fit a set of our sights on his CZ. You can see it on the "customer showcase" of our website.
How are y'all modding your CZ 75's?
I ordered a Pre-B model, and have been reading where a 13lb mainspring, 11LB recoil spring, and a CZ Custom Competition Hammer all do wonders for the trigger on the gun.
That what mine has, plus slim aluminum grips and adjustable sights.
How good are CZs? Real Good.
I've got a CZ75-SP01 Tactical and a CZ75-SP01 Shadow Custom. The Tactical got me into USPSA shooting, then I took the leap and got a Shadow Custom, also from Angus Hobdell's shop. The Tactical has a decocker and is DA/SA, the Shadow has no decocker or firing pin block, and is also DA/SA. Both have trigger jobs by Hobdell's shop, czcustom.com. He sells them at a fair price, has excellent online ordering and customer support, and when they say they're going to do something, they do it. About all the available CZ parts (sights, springs, screws, grips, etc.) are available through Hobdell, I don't think that there are very many other sources other than maybe MidwayUSA. I can't say enough about what a great shop Angus operates, with responsive, expert people who know what they are doing and who really do provide customer service.
The CZs I have are beautifully made inside and out, with a paint-like treatment called "Polycoat". I'd have preferred blueing, but this finish is durable. If you keep them clean and oiled, they work very, very well. They're heavy, a little expensive, but they point and shoot very well, at least for me. Other than polishing the feed ramp and fiddling with the recoil spring, I've done nothing to my Shadow but shoot it.
I've switched to using Glocks in competition for two reasons: there's only one trigger pull on a Glock (no DA/SA, which on my Shadow Custom is about 8#/3#), and now that I have my Glock tuned down to about 4 pounds, that's important to me. Also important is the ability to do all of the necessary tuning and maintenance on my Glock by myself. With the big aftermarket of Glock parts suppliers, you can do a lot more to make your competition Glock work just right without much expense.
I like the CZs, I plan to keep them, and some day if I ever get good enough, I may try using the Shadow again in competition.
Originally Posted by telememo
I was thinking about ordering the CZ rubber grips for it.
Originally Posted by cohland
Doesn't CZ Custom offer a Shadow trigger job?(something like that) It appears that it's $160 to have them do that, and people say it's night, and day. From my understanding it includeds the spring, and hammer mods I listed, and they also make the trigger have a shorter pull. Is this info correct?
I plan to use this mainly as a fun target shooter/something to plink with as 10mm, and .45 ACP gets a little expensive to shoot all the time.(I need a .22 LR pistol) Also from everything I've read is these are very, very accurate semi-auto pistols.
Is the firing pin safety in the CZ 75B's similar to the firing pin block in the Colt Series 80 1911's? Would that mean the trigger on the Pre-B's are regarded as being better than the triggers on the current 75B's?
BTW is it going to be hard to find magazines for this gun?
I can tell you that, for me, the CZ rubber grips work better than any of the other four (!) types that I tried out. They fit my hands and provide a really good hold on the pistol.
Originally Posted by JROC
As I recall, the Shadow custom comes with the full-on trigger job, they don't hold back anything on that one. Check their website for the details.
Not owning a 1911, I don't know a thing about them, so I can't really answer the question about the similarity to the CZ's firing pin construction. I believe that removing the CZ firing pin block was done to make the trigger better on the competition models, and that it is employed on other models. Again, you can call Angus' shop and talk with someone, maybe Rob Bagnato, and they will be able to answer your questions fully. An alternative would be to check the CZ forum, there's a lot of information there (http://www.czforumsite.info/index.php). Shooting the Shadow Custom in USPSA, the procedure is to make the gun ready and then CAREFULLY lower the hammer on the round in the chamber before holstering. When you draw with the safety off (Production Division), the first shot is DA and the rest are SA.
I've bought my magazines from Angus, don't know about other sources, you might check Midway USA or Botach tactical.
I went ahead and ordered the grips, main spring, recoil spring, and competition hammer for it. I have a hard time leaving things stock. lol
Not to hijack this but I have three brand new highcap mags for my CZ SP-01 (I believe it should fit any CZ75 but please do your homework!), purchased directly from CZ-USA last year, unopened still in the plastic bags. If anyone is interested I'm selling them, have too many mags. Can't check if they still have those at CZ-USA, but I can price them $10 below CZ with free shipping.
Here's my new(to me) CZ75 Pre-B. It actually looks like a B model. B model frame which says "MADE IN CZECH REPUBLIC" instead of "MADE IN CZECHOSLOVAKIA", and has the flat on the end of the trigger guard instead of being rounded. Also the slide looks just like a B model slide other than it doesn't have the pin in the center of the serrations for the firing pin block, and its still labeled 9 PARA instead of the B models label of 9 LUGER. Fortunately it comes with the B model sights which are dovetailed and makes it easy to change to some better sights, and it works with the B model Magazine which is great as Pre-B mags are hard to find, and expensive. It also has a B model hammer.(not pictured) The safety, and slide stop are Pre-B.
It's a 93 model, and I'm pretty sure that's the first year they were stamped "MADE IN CZECH REPUBLIC". This use to be a Czech police gun.
I assume this gun was built during the transition between the Pre-B's, and B models which IMO is a good thing. You get the benefits of the B model which is a much, much bigger aftermarket, and it holds B model magazines,(Pre-B mags are no longer made, and hard to come by in the U.S.) and sights, and then you get the main benefit of the Pre-B in that the gun doesn't have a firing pin block which takes away from the trigger.
BTW these pictures are after a few mods. The visible mods are factory CZ rubber grips,(much nicer than the stock plastic grips) and a competition hammer.
This gun will be getting some work done. I want to get a CZ Customs Shadow trigger job, and I want it refinished in a dull stainless look. Maybe a dull silver frame with a blued slide.