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    To Nightsight or Not to Nightsight


    Anyone that spends time on Youtube and is into guns has probably heard of Nutnfancy. If not go check him out and them come back and finish reading this post. I have been thinking for a while about sending my G19 to Glock to have the new ejector on it and at the same time having nightsights put on it. I have thought about putting on nightsights for a while. I have always had a second thought about relying on nightsights because the way I see it if I need nightsights to see a target its probably too dark to make it out anyway. I believe in target identification before target acquisition. My current carry solution is a G30 and a handheld EDC light clipped in my weak hand front pocket.

    This week Nutn' is reporting from ShotShow. One of his booth reviews was a guy from CZ. During the interview the spokesman made the comment that he doesn't care for nightsights for the same reason I stated previously. He said the only thing nightsights are good for is finding your gun in the dark. I know this is one mans opinion and by no means the end all to all discussions, but it makes sense. To some degree this reassured my thought pattern. My question to the forum is...

    If you prefer nightsights over a weapon light or in conjuction with one, why? Is there a convincing reason why I should be better off investing in nightsights over a weapon mounted light and a good holster to accommodate it? I am not looking for a debate, just honest opinions.
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    I think night sights are useful on a carry gun...

    Night sights don't seem to be as important on a home, self defense gun... I use a light on my SD gun... StreamLight TLR-1s...
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    I have night sights on everything I own from Glock. There are many good brands, I personally prefer Trijicon. In daylight they give an excellent sight picture and at night sight alignment is quick and defined. See if you can try a friends firearm to fire at night or under lowlight conditions. Even with excellent night sights after you see the initial flash from the barrel you will see how sight picture aquisition is a must.
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    How about night/day sights? Tru Glo tritium fiber optic.

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    I have the Tru Glo tritium fiber optic sights and would NEVER go back for this reason, they light up better during the day then normal sights, I seem to get faster shot followup, and I heard that 85 + percentage of violent crime happens at night, so if you have night sights and you have to make that shot and you did ID that person wouldn't it be in your best interest to have the best sight picture since shot placement is critical as well. Even LEO agencies have said it has made a great difference. I hope this helps and please let me know how this ends up. Cheers

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    I'm a fan of Trijicon night sights. I have a green/green set on both my Glocks and I find they work really well in low light conditions. If it is pitch black then you need some sort of light either on your person or on your firearm, but in those low light conditions where you don't quite need a flashlight, but it's a little too dark to see your stock sights, that's when the night sights really shine (no pun intended). In the bright light the Trijicons are excellent because they offer a white ring around the tritium housing which basically turns these sights into a three dot.

    The guy from CZ was definitely right about making the firearm easier to find in the dark. Those suckers glow bright in the dark. Yeah, I saw night sights all the way.
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    No offense to the OP but the discussion of Night Sights as a necessity (or not) has been assulted like a deceased equine.

    While I agree if it's so dark you can't ID the target you don't need to pull the trigger but how about this ..... you ID the threat by ambiant light (moon through the window, night light, lamp from down the hall, etc.) but he then moves into the shadow. He's still there and slightly visible but if this was the first glimpse you'd not know if he was friend/foe. Wouldn't you like to see your sights now so that you could keep them on the target or even pull the trigger if you had to?

    I strongly believe in Night Sights on any gun used for defensive purpose ... carry, home defense, etc. You can make all the reasons you want as to why you won't ever need it in X situation but the fact is you just don't know what you'll need until you need it. Would you rather wish you had it or have it and not even realize how valuable it is?

    I also strongly believe in having both a hand held light handy & utilizing weapon mounted lights on a home defense gun. I don't always use a WML on my carry gun (but sometimes do) but I always have a hand held light in my pocket ... always ... even right now, during the day, at my desk. You never know when the power will go out or some kind of disaster might happen.

    Lastly, as mentioned before there are many great brands of Night Sights. My current favorites are Ameriglo and the new Trijicon HD line.

    The TFO sights have been previously mentioned. I have only had them on one pistol that I've owned. While they do provide a great sight picture both day & night I personally don't think they would very robust on a EDC weapon. My personal experience with other fiber optic tubes has been less than positive. They tend to break or get dislodged under hard use. The other issue I have with them is the shape of the rear sight housing. It doesn't have a good ledge that would allow it's use (against a hard surface such as a table, the corner of a wall, your belt, or your boot heal) to cycle the slide easily for one handed malf clearance. You could use it but it isn't nearly as good a ledge as on the ones I mentioned previously. Personally, before I'd try to use it I'd just use the front sight against a hard surface to cycle the slide.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VolGrad View Post
    No offense to the OP but the discussion of Night Sights as a necessity (or not) has been assulted like a deceased equine.



    I also strongly believe in having both a hand held light handy & utilizing weapon mounted lights on a home defense gun. I don't always use a WML on my carry gun (but sometimes do) but I always have a hand held light in my pocket ... always ... even right now, during the day, at my desk. You never know when the power will go out or some kind of disaster might happen.

    Lastly, as mentioned before there are many great brands of Night Sights. My current favorites are Ameriglo and the new Trijicon HD line.
    Thanks Vol, I know the "debate" has been exhausted. You pretty much answered my question though. I was more interested in whether I should invest in nightsights or a WML and holster for carry only. I have a WML on my nightstand gun G21, but I don't carry it. I am comfortable with my EDC light (BriteStrike RL-198-HLS 210 lumen) and I am convinced now a set of Trijicons are the way to go. I appreciate the input. I understand the benefits to nightsights, I have just been riding the fence trying to convince myself it is necessary vs. a WML.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tactworld45 View Post
    I understand the benefits to nightsights, I have just been riding the fence trying to convince myself it is necessary vs. a WML.
    I don't see the two (Sight Sights vs WML) as mutually exclusive. I see them as a supplement to one another, along with a hand held light.

    However, IF I had to a limited budget and had to choose which to purchase first I'd purchase Night Sights (given you already have a hand held light) and start saving for a WML and holster to accomodate it.

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    I'm the crazy guy over in the corner that is "paranoid"....

    I carry a WML daily, on a firearm that has quality Night Sights AND a handheld light. (Plus at least one extra mag) ( and sometimes a backup gun) (with one extra mag or more) (and two knives) (and a ex-Marine for a wife)... well you get the picture....

    I would 100% agree that if funding was an issue I would buy Night Sights first, wait for a TLR-1(s) to go on sale and then buy a PSS Holsters to accommodate your G19 and TLR-1 from me as I have one for sale. Or buy the holster now so you HAVE to save up for the WML. Either way.
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