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    Thumbs up New trigger trainer for dry shooting !!!

    Hello,

    I am from Greece and I have come up with a very cheap and easy to install accessory for our Glocks,
    in order to train our trigger finger (dry shooting).

    I name it glok-E-trainer!

    Here are the key features:

    1. No modifications needed
    2. No gunsmith tools needed
    3. Install and remove it in seconds
    4. Barrel is aligned to the sights, so it can be used together with a laser or any other aiming aid
    5. Can be used as an active safety (ONLY FOR STORAGE — NOT FOR CARRYING)
    6. No hitting of firing pin

    In my website you can see the compatible Glock models (all except Glock 36), videos of how it works (installation, use and removal) as also the necessary documentation for safety and installation. Anyone interested can visit it for more info!

    Thanks!
    Last edited by glokEtrainer; 06-11-2015 at 04:01 PM.

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    Interesting !

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    Thank you!

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    I would appreciate any thoughts or comments!

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    I'll give you my honest thoughts and maybe you can expand/correct some of my assumptions.

    Looking at the design I believe what it does is push the connector over so that it doesn't engage the trigger bar. This allows the trigger to be pulled without disengaging the firing pin lug.

    Initially, my thoughts were that the trigger pull would be very different with only the firing pin spring for resistance. Obviously there will be no "wall" at the start of the 2nd stage nor would there be a "break" from the firing pin releasing. But I decided to test it out by removing the connector in a G26 - I would not recommend anyone do this unless you're already familiar with disassembling a stuck slide as the gun will not come apart the normal way without the connector to disengage the trigger bar. To my surprise the trigger feels pretty close. Clearly there are differences so I'm not sure I would recommend it for someone trying to work on trigger control. But for something like practicing draw/fire its not a bad option for eliminating the need to rack the slide after every pull.

    Can you tell us the actual difference in trigger weight with your tool vs. without?

    I think the price point is very attractive at just under $28 (btw here's a live link to the OPs website glok-E-trainer)

    I don't know if I would consider it at a higher price point, but at $28 even if I only play with it a few times I'm not going to feel like I wasted money.

    I see the major alternatives as:
    • Snap caps for dry fire practice ($15 range), user needs to rack the slide after each trigger pull.
    • LaserLyte type training cartridge ($75-$100) can be combined with LASR software or a LaserLyte reactive target for more entertainment/training. Still requires racking the slide after each pull.
    • A resetting trigger (i.e. Reset Trigger Kit for Glock at $199) - still doesn't feel like a regular Glock trigger but does have a second stage and break. This will work with a LaserLyte cartridge so the user can get good feedback, especially if also paired with a reactive target or LASR Software.
    • A SIRT pistol (starting at $239) - this is the most realistic dry fire practice option and my choice for training when paired with the LASR software. However, it's 10x your price.


    Your price point is low enough that I will consider getting one to use when draw/fire practicing with my subcompacts. However, the vast majority of my training will be with my SIRT + LASR because of the training options and feedback this combination provides. I am such a believer in dry fire training that I think anyone who is serious about using a firearm would be well served to have a laser cartridge or better system for training.

    I would like to add that since there are companies who sponsor this forum in order to promote their business that may be something you should consider. I don't know what it costs but hope there are some reasonable options.

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    Thank you for taking the time to write!

    glok-E-trainer does not have the ability for the shooter to feel the "wall" of the 2nd stage, nor the "break" of the firing pin
    and if someone wants this ability obviously has to search for a more expensive accessory!

    I know what you are talking about, but from my experience these functions are more useful to competition shooters that need to know every detail the trigger "travel" as they have to deal with milliseconds as they aim and shoot, but less to average shooters who don't have the money to spend for devices and large amounts of ammunition. And I am talking about the 90% of the shooting family worldwide (not to say more)!

    Professionals don't care about how much money they will spent on ammunition or for hardware, spare parts and customizations (sponsors do that!)

    I do not have a device to measure "trigger weight", but it is identical to your Glock whatever modification you have done with it!

    You are right about the connector, but imagine you are sitting at your couch and want to train your trigger finger, what you would prefer:

    1. Disassemble the hole trigger mechanism, remove the connector, assemble it again, train you trigger finger and do the opposite again, or
    2. in seconds insert glok-e-trainer, train yourself and when finished remove it again in seconds?

    My opinion is that it's a very decent and low cost device that can save you a lot of money, as you will not have to be at the range all the time, or pulling every time the slide causing wear to your Glock,

    In time you can reach 70%-80% of trigger pull perfection and by fitting a laser (inside the barrel or on the picatinny rail),
    aiming at a target and pulling the trigger, you can find out what you are doing wrong and fine-tune your pull!

    The other 20% will come in the range with live fire,

    I am testing it for a long time and I think this trigger trainer causes the least wear to our Glocks!

    Also some shooters from my country, who trained with glok-e-trainer, gave me very positive feedback, as they managed to fine-tune their technique!

    I hope that I answered your questions!

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    As I understand you have a lot of experience!

    So I would appreciate if you accept to sent you a free sample, in order to give us your evaluation!

    Quote Originally Posted by MtStream View Post
    I'll give you my honest thoughts and maybe you can expand/correct some of my assumptions.

    Looking at the design I believe what it does is push the connector over so that it doesn't engage the trigger bar. This allows the trigger to be pulled without disengaging the firing pin lug.

    Initially, my thoughts were that the trigger pull would be very different with only the firing pin spring for resistance. Obviously there will be no "wall" at the start of the 2nd stage nor would there be a "break" from the firing pin releasing. But I decided to test it out by removing the connector in a G26 - I would not recommend anyone do this unless you're already familiar with disassembling a stuck slide as the gun will not come apart the normal way without the connector to disengage the trigger bar. To my surprise the trigger feels pretty close. Clearly there are differences so I'm not sure I would recommend it for someone trying to work on trigger control. But for something like practicing draw/fire its not a bad option for eliminating the need to rack the slide after every pull.

    Can you tell us the actual difference in trigger weight with your tool vs. without?

    I think the price point is very attractive at just under $28 (btw here's a live link to the OPs website glok-E-trainer)

    I don't know if I would consider it at a higher price point, but at $28 even if I only play with it a few times I'm not going to feel like I wasted money.

    I see the major alternatives as:
    • Snap caps for dry fire practice ($15 range), user needs to rack the slide after each trigger pull.
    • LaserLyte type training cartridge ($75-$100) can be combined with LASR software or a LaserLyte reactive target for more entertainment/training. Still requires racking the slide after each pull.
    • A resetting trigger (i.e. Reset Trigger Kit for Glock at $199) - still doesn't feel like a regular Glock trigger but does have a second stage and break. This will work with a LaserLyte cartridge so the user can get good feedback, especially if also paired with a reactive target or LASR Software.
    • A SIRT pistol (starting at $239) - this is the most realistic dry fire practice option and my choice for training when paired with the LASR software. However, it's 10x your price.


    Your price point is low enough that I will consider getting one to use when draw/fire practicing with my subcompacts. However, the vast majority of my training will be with my SIRT + LASR because of the training options and feedback this combination provides. I am such a believer in dry fire training that I think anyone who is serious about using a firearm would be well served to have a laser cartridge or better system for training.

    I would like to add that since there are companies who sponsor this forum in order to promote their business that may be something you should consider. I don't know what it costs but hope there are some reasonable options.

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    Now, for anyone who's interested I added direct Paypal payment (cheaper!).
    So, please visit glok-E-trainer website!

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    Seems like a simple / brilliant solution to me. I agree that + laser bore sight or laser sight will give you a whole lot of valuable feedback.

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