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    Reloading recipes for my Glock 21

    Hello to ALL, I’m a newbe, you’ll be able to tell.
    I have a Glock 21, 1985 year. I’ve only shot, maybe 30 rounds thru it. The ammo I’ve been using is the Winchester white box Q4170, 45 ca, 230 gr. FMJ @ 835. I now want to get it out and shoot it again, but would like to save my cases and start reloading. I might decide to inter the Glock matches, if I get the guts and don’t embarrass myself? So for a first timer reloading what recipes would you suggest with the 185 and or 230 gr bullet, that has the best accuracy, reliability, performance and softest shooter, to practice with and maybe shoot matches?
    I think this gun is so neat and simple, I just want to spend money on it. Now I should shoot it.
    Facts:
    1985 Glock 21
    Standard Glock sight
    Lasermax LMS1151P guide rod laser, installed by Lasermax, with there recoil spring
    KKM Glock 21 Match 45ACP barrel, fitted and installed by KKM
    Aftermarket 3.5 lb trigger, installed by Lasermax dealer
    Oversize take down lever
    Oversize magazine button
    Hogue grips
    I still have all, the new OEM Glock take off parts
    OEM barrel 4.60 in.
    All the trigger parts
    The OEM recoil spring and guide rod and a different spring and guide rod the Glock amour gave me?
    A Bunch of new magazine springs, bases & followers
    Last edited by rwrangler; 11-06-2016 at 09:26 PM.

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    Get one of the many reloading manuals form Lyman's, Hornady, Hodgdon and Sierra Bullets manual are all good manuals.
    I use Lyman's. Start with the weakest load data for the caliber, bullet type and weight. Make a magazines worth and see if it's enough cycle the weapon.
    I make a few mags worth of progressively stronger loads and go see what works best for me.

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    OHgaz , I did look at Hodgdon Lyman's. It's kind of overwhelming. There is a load recipe for every powder, primer, bullet combination out there. I was hopping some one that has a lot of experience and success with a Glock 21, 45 cal could give the best load for targets and or matches? I know as in shotgunning there's clean shooting powder, powder that meters easier, etc; There has to be a preferred brass, bullet, powder, primer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rwrangler View Post
    OHgaz , I did look at Hodgdon Lyman's. It's kind of overwhelming. There is a load recipe for every powder, primer, bullet combination out there. I was hopping some one that has a lot of experience and success with a Glock 21, 45 cal could give the best load for targets and or matches? I know as in shotgunning there's clean shooting powder, powder that meters easier, etc; There has to be a preferred brass, bullet, powder, primer?
    That's because each different component change the outcome of the load, that includes the weapon and the shooter.
    If you already have reloading equipment and components then match up what you have to one of the manuals and start low and work your way up to what you want for YOUR target load.

    If I, or someone else that you've never met, gives you a reload for your pistol and it damages the pistol, who's fault would it be?

    If you want ideas for powder, primers and bullets, there are many posts from other reloaders that say what they like and works well for them.
    For me it's CCI 500 small pistol primers, Western 231 & Bullseye powder with Berry's plated bullets or Montana Gold bullets.
    Being you are starting out reloading 45, remember 45 brass has 2 different primer pocket sizes. But input on if there is a difference in performance between the 2 should come from someone that reloads and shoots 45.

    If things go well I will be helping a friend that just bought a Dillon 550 set it up and start reloading. I won't even give him 'best' loads, we'll work them up the same way because he is just learning and needs to learn the process of getting the best load for what he's shooting.

    If you don't have a press and only intend to load pistol, I would recommend a Dillon Square Deal B set for 45. It comes ready to load for the caliber you choose. The B's only draw back it's use of unique dies that only work with that press and it only does straight walled pistol cartridges.

    Gaz
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    Quote Originally Posted by rwrangler View Post
    Hello to ALL, Iím a newbe, youíll be able to tell.
    I have a Glock 21, 1985 year. Iíve only shot, maybe 30 rounds thru it. The ammo Iíve been using is the Winchester white box Q4170, 45 ca, 230 gr. FMJ @ 835. I now want to get it out and shoot it again, but would like to save my cases and start reloading. I might decide to inter the Glock matches, if I get the guts and donít embarrass myself? So for a first timer reloading what recipes would you suggest with the 185 and or 230 gr bullet, that has the best accuracy, reliability, performance and softest shooter, to practice with and maybe shoot matches?
    I think this gun is so neat and simple, I just want to spend money on it. Now I should shoot it.
    Facts:
    1985 Glock 21
    Standard Glock sight
    Lasermax LMS1151P guide rod laser, installed by Lasermax, with there recoil spring
    KKM Glock 21 Match 45ACP barrel, fitted and installed by KKM
    Aftermarket 3.5 lb trigger, installed by Lasermax dealer
    Oversize take down lever
    Oversize magazine button
    Hogue grips
    I still have all, the new OEM Glock take off parts
    OEM barrel 4.60 in.
    All the trigger parts
    The OEM recoil spring and guide rod and a different spring and guide rod the Glock amour gave me?
    A Bunch of new magazine springs, bases & followers
    I did not know there was a G21 in 1985. The G18 was not until 1987??? Then the G19 immediately after.....then 20/21.

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    OHgaz,
    I understand what your stating. But there must be a GOOD starting point for someone who is new in reloading 45 ca for a Glock 21. You can't expect a new reloader to go out and buy every powder, bullet, primer to see what works in his gun. That's why I'm on this site (Glock Pro), to talk to people who have the same gun and are dedicated and have all the resources to reload for this specific gun. I've shoot a lot of shotgun reloads and even though there is many different recipes, there's always a few that work the best in a particular/specific gun, and people tell you what they found. In a shotgun if your wrong with a safe load it stills functions, with a pistol if your wrong it won't function properly. With all the Glock 21s out there and in this forum, I would guess someone has a GREAT starting point. Thanks
    Note: I do have a RCBS Rock Crusher set. Bought many years ago and only tried reloading, It's still as new in the boxes. I believe I load 20 rounds????

    tim414 ,
    I called Glock and according to Glock this gun was made in December 1985, that's all I can say.
    Last edited by rwrangler; 11-07-2016 at 02:42 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rwrangler View Post
    OHgaz,
    I understand what your stating. But there must be a GOOD starting point for someone who is new in reloading 45 ca for a Glock 21. You can't expect a new reloader to go out and buy every powder, bullet, primer to see what works in his gun. That's why I'm on this site (Glock Pro), to talk to people who have the same gun and are dedicated and have all the resources to reload for this specific gun. I've shoot a lot of shotgun reloads and even though there is many different recipes, there's always a few that work the best in a particular/specific gun, and people tell you what they found. In a shotgun if your wrong with a safe load it stills functions, with a pistol if your wrong it won't function properly. With all the Glock 21s out there and in this forum, I would guess someone has a GREAT starting point. Thanks
    Note: I do have a RCBS Rock Crusher set. Bought many years ago and only tried reloading, It's still as new in the boxes. I believe I load 20 rounds????

    tim414 ,
    I called Glock and according to Glock this gun was made in December 1985, that's all I can say.
    There are many good starting points as there are guns and shooters. And the people that do reloading as a business put out manuals with there TESTED suggestions. That's why I pointed you in that direction.

    I have never found any load suggestion in any reload manual I've used to be unsafe. Some may not operate your semi auto pistol because it's too small of a powder charge, but all are safe.
    The manuals also go over the questions your asking about getting started. Set up your press and go slow till you are comfortable with reloading. There is more to it than just amount of powder and bullet. How far is the bullet seated, is the COL with in spec, is it crimped properly, all this info is in a good manual.

    You didn't answer this question I posted earlier. "If I, or someone else that you've never met, gives you a reload for your pistol and it damages the pistol, who's fault would it be?"

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    Ok, guess I understand your problem..
    A good powder is WW P231. It's a ball powder and meters accurately. Any primer that is the right size as in Large Pistol or Small Pistol, will work safely.
    Primers have unique characteristics, Wolf are the hardest, Remington next, Federal, WW, CCI are about equal, I'm referring to the metal the outer cup is made from.
    You'll hear reloaders talk about 'dirty' powder like Unique. That means a lot of smoke becomes stuck to the outside of the gun. Do as others have suggested and get a manual and read the parts about how to reload. Look to see what they have to say about the mechanics of reloading.

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    This is hard for me to put on paper. I'm not asking for individual load recipes or loads you have worked up. I'm asking what load is the main stream/popular from Hodgdon, Alliant, Lyman's to start with. I know nothing about bullets, and it seems there are better ones that work better in the Glocks? Just as in Primers, there are many manufactures that make the same size as others, so what manufacture is overall the best, etc;

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    Quote Originally Posted by rwrangler View Post
    This is hard for me to put on paper. I'm not asking for individual load recipes or loads you have worked up. I'm asking what load is the main stream/popular from Hodgdon, Alliant, Lyman's to start with. I know nothing about bullets, and it seems there are better ones that work better in the Glocks? Just as in Primers, there are many manufactures that make the same size as others, so what manufacture is overall the best, etc;
    I can get long winded when I type so maybe you missed this from my second post.

    For me it's CCI 500 small pistol primers, Western 231 & Bullseye powder with Berry's plated bullets or Montana Gold bullets
    These work for me and all the pistols I reload.
    Sorry for any confusion I may have caused.

    Gaz
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