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Dot Torture Drill - Free Full Size Target!

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This is a great marksmanship drill... Something you can do in a single lane of a standard shooting range... Go to the link above to read more about it and print out a full size image of the target...
 
#4 ·
Bump-- We should make this a Glock.pro postal match!! I'd e-mailed Todd G some time ago and he's given an OK. How about:

-- Print this out
-- Shoot at whatever distance you're comfortable.
-- Report your score or better yet post a pic!

I promise I'll get one posted soon.
 
#5 ·
I'll get one up soon...

I'm on my way to Staples for a hole punch... :cool: :cool: :cool:

I shot this target again last week... Shot almost all the drills, except no holster draws and no reloads... Indoor range... First time I have shot support hand only... Wow! It's way harder than shooting with your strong hand only...
 
#7 ·
This is one of our drills to gauge student progress in out "You Suck it's Not The Gun" class. We runn the students through it in at the begging of the class and then again at the end. the improvement is always huge.

Great drill. Once you get to the point of being able to clear it on demand, add a time limit or farther distance. In our classes we run it at 3 yards. the way we score it is every shot has to be inside the black rings of the circle. If the grease ring of the round touches the black ring its counted as a miss. Makes them slow down an really focus on the fundamentals and accuracy.

great drill.
 
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... the way we score it is every shot has to be inside the black rings of the circle. If the grease ring of the round touches the black ring its counted as a miss. Makes them slow down an really focus on the fundamentals and accuracy.
It's not "torture" for nothing :)

How about this: the first person who posts a picture of their target gets to make the call whether or not breaking the black ring counts as a hit or miss. No copying and pasting images from the web-- has to be your own target!!
 
#8 ·
It's a great drill because it forces you to shoot things you wouldn't normally shoot and also because you can shoot it in a single lane at an indoor range...

As I mentioned above, I recently started shooting the weak hand drill... (I used to skip it)... The good news is that I have a pretty small group... The bad news is that the group isn't centered in the circle... :(
 
#10 ·
Yes, right handed, so I was shooting with my left hand... I canted the gun... Two of the rounds were inside the circle, but the others were low and two were low and a bit to the right.

My gun control was much worse with my left hand... Need to practice more...
 
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I've been tortured...by being too ambitious. Used my stock G17 with 147gr Winchester SuperX TMJ ammo at 5 yards. Started cold-- no warmups. Can't say I'm happy with my results. I'll call it a "meh".

I scored it using KeithD's post-- if it breaks the line, it's a miss.
I realized at the end, before scoring that I shot 3 and 4 with 5 shots each. So I didn't include 1 hit on each circle. I didn't want to "reshoot" after I used up 50+ rounds. I also flinched 4 times-- hate that! The black marker holes in 9 and 10 were meant for dots 6 and 7.

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The number one reasons people dont do as good as they should on this drill is speed. Especially those that do a lot of tac/comp shooting. thats why i love it you have to force yourself to slow down and focus on the fundamentals. start at 3 yds, if you can clear it on demand there thats an excellent start. after that add a time limit or distance.

actually its ironic, i just had as student send me a pic of his first cleared DT.

If I have time I'll shoot one this week.
 
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O.K., just so PC won't be the only brave soul to put his score out there for all the internet to see:

I FORCED myself to take it slow on this one - perhaps too dang slow. Took me over 7 minutes to run this drill. That's around 8.64 seconds per round! :(
Interesting, the things you notice when you run this drill. Both single hand stages I strung shots horizontally (target #6 & 8). I tend to rush the first shot on a "two-target" stage (target 3, 6, 9).
FUN STUFF! OK don't be shy, git 'em up there!
 
#19 ·
Hey Keith,
Yeah I argued with myself on that one and another close one on number 8 (Not the one I marked as a miss on #8, the other one at the 2:00 position).
I even pulled out the magnifying glass on both of them. It looks like the grease ring on the #7 miss is just barely touching the inside of the black line.

Close enough for horseshoes, but I tend to be a tough scorer... :roll eyes:

I gotta stop using ball ammo on a paper target - doesn't cut clean enough.
I forgot to mention for those who are interested. I was shooting Georgia Arms 115 gr. FMJ ammo.
 
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Had to redeem myself at 3 yards. A couple of things I noticed.
-- Sorry it's blurry. Didn't realize it until I saw it on my computer.
-- I think actually slowed down too much for strong hand (#5), which I think made me more prone to flinching. I was slowly pulling the trigger, waiting for the break, for too long. And I started anticipating.
-- Shot too fast after the draw, slide lock, then reload for 9 and 10. Sloooooooow down.

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Start at 3 yards. You have to get all 50 hits to pass. Once you can shoot the whole drill without a single miss, either increase the distance or add time pressure. For instance, try to finish the entire drill in under 5 minutes while maintaining 100% accuracy.
a nice drill but talk about burning up some ammo If you can keep up the pace you can burnup about 180$ in ammo in less than an hour eek:eek::eek:eek

•Dot 1 - Draw and fire one string of 5 rounds for best group. One hole if possible, total 5 rounds.
•Dot 2 - Draw and fire 1 shot, holster and repeat X4, total 5 rounds.
•Dots 3 & 4 - Draw and fire 1 shot on #3, then 1 shot on #4, holster and repeat X3, total 8 rounds.
•Dot 5 - Draw and fire string of 5 rounds, strong hand only, total 5 rounds.
•Dots 6 & 7 - Draw and fire 2 shots on #6, then 2 on #7, holster, repeat X4, total 16 rounds.
•Dot 8 - From ready or retention, fire five shots, weak hand only, total 5 rounds.
•Dots 9 & 10 - Draw and fire 1 shot on #9, speed reload, fire 1 shot on #10, holster and repeat X3, total 6 rounds.

It sure would be hard to keep pace on that drill
 
#27 ·
a nice drill but talk about burning up some ammo If you can keep up the pace you can burnup about 180$ in ammo in less than an hour eek:eek::eek:eek
No doubt. But what I like about the drill: even though it's bullseye shooting, you're still working in some additional valuable skills. Expensive but helpful.

That said, I think I'll move on to another drill. But what to choose, what to do... Anyone want to start a new thread and a new drill?
 
#28 ·
Here's one by Ken Hackathorn. Only takes 30 rounds, and one IDPA target.

30 Round Self Defense Practice Drill Ken Hackathorn
With just one IDPA sized target, a sheet of target patches, and the Drills that I will enumerate below, one can now have a decent guide in teaching oneself the finer points of armed self defense. A friend with a competition timer will also come in handy. All Drills involve firing live ammunition and should only be performed in a shooting range or a place where there is no danger of hitting anything other than your target or its backstop. Oh yeah, you'll also need a gun. The instructions below assume that you are using a semi-auto pistol, for wheel-gunners replace magazine changes with speed loader reloads.
Remember to observe and practice the four rules of gun safety.
1. From 5 yards, allowing 1 1⁄2 seconds, beginning at "low ready" one shot to head. Repeat 3 times.
2. From 5 yards, allowing 2 seconds, beginning with gun holstered, one shot to head. Repeat 3 times.
3. From 5 yards, allowing 2 seconds, beginning at "low ready," strong hand only, two shots to body. Repeat 2 times.
4. From 7 yards, allowing 2 seconds, facing 90° to left of target, gun holstered, two shots to body. One time only.
5. From 7 yards, allowing 2 seconds, facing 90° to right of target, gun holstered, two shots to body. One time only.
6. From 7 yards, allowing 2 seconds, facing target, gun holstered, two shots to body. One time only.
7. From 7 yards, allowing 4 seconds, while backing to 10-12 yards, three shots to body. Repeat 2 times.
8. From 10 yards, allowing 3 seconds, beginning with gun on target and round in chamber, change magazine and fire one shot to body.
Repeat 2 times.
9. From 10 yards, allowing 3 seconds, beginning with gun on target and slide locked back, change magazine and fire one shot to body.
One time only.
10. From 15 yards, allowing 2 1⁄2 seconds, draw and fire one shot to body. Repeat 5 times.

Head shots only count if you hit the A zone of the "head" of the target. Body shots count if you hit the A, B, or C zones of the "body" of the target.
It is best to do these exercises with the same sidearm you intend to carry and with the same holster you plan to use. For most of us, this will be a concealed carry sidearm and concealment holster. Also wearing a shirt or vest that properly conceals the weapon is also recommended as the idea is to practice what you will do should you ever need to use your CCW piece in self defense. Assume that all Drills that require starting with a holstered firearm mean a holstered and concealed firearm. Using your star trek mod 1911 and an offset, fast draw holster won't really teach you much about drawing and presentation which is what these Drills are mostly about. Think real world.
 
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I know this is an older thread but I printed out the Dot Torture target. My score was a 33 out of 50. I landed the first 5 on slow fire nice but some of the others weren't to good. Some of the draws were pretty bad. Suprisingly I did decent on my weak hand. Even if I had a way to post a picture, I don't think I would. I definitely need more practice. I normally just shoot slow fire or a little rapid. I had the target at 7 yards out and I usually am decent but this drill tested me.
 
#30 ·
Glad you liked the dot torture drill!

It's a useful drill whether you're doing tactical training or practicing for practical shooting... USPSA has many strong and/or weak hand classifiers...
 
#31 ·
Glad you liked the dot torture drill!

It's a useful drill whether you're doing tactical training or practicing for practical shooting... USPSA has many strong and/or weak hand classifiers...
I'll be doing it again this weekend. I used the G23 and the G35 last weekend. This weekend is the G26 and G17, we'll see what happens. I also printed out another drill from that site that had a good sized rectangle, a medium size circle and a small square with the pistol training logo inside it. The drill is 3 shots inside the rectangle, 2 inside the circle and 1 inside the small square. I did better on this drill that the dot drill.