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    Cool Mil-Comm - MC25 Cleaner and TW25B Lubricant Protectant!

    I thought about switching from my old cleaning/lubrication products for quite a while... I was tired of the smell of Hoopes #9 and disappointed when it ate through a plastic cup when I forgot to throw it out one night. I've also thought that I would like a thinner grease than the Shooter's Choice grease I was using.

    I did a lot of research and liked everything I read about the TW25B grease and Mil-Comms line of products. Mil-Comm has a video to explain the thoughts behind their product design that I found very informative:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VfjHzH83WYo

    I still had a few questions, so I called up Mil-Comm and asked to talk to someone in their Tech Support section about their gun lubricating and cleaning products. I don't know if I was lucky or not, but I ended up talking to Gordon Furlong, the founder of Mil-Comm. He was very helpful and willing to talk to me so I asked him a few questions.

    I liked the fact that Mil-Comm's MC25 Weapon Cleaner was non-toxic and wouldn't eat through plastic. I wondered how it would work for cleaning barrels. Mr. Furlong stated that their MC25 Premium Weapon Cleaner would clean any carbon fouling and anything else except copper and lead. I don't shoot lead bullets, so that was OK, but I might need to break out some Hoppes #9 if I get a lot of copper buildup.

    Then he mentioned that Mil-Comm was in the process of releasing a new product called MC50. The new (not released yet) MC50 weapon cleaner will be a non-hazardous bore cleaner and will clean copper and lead. I'm not sure if the mention of the MC50 is public knowledge, but he didn't say to keep it a secret.

    Another premise of the Mil-Comm products is that they don't have a CLP product. They have a Cleaner and a separate Lubricant/Protector. Mr. Furlong restated what their video mentioned about the cleaner watering down the effects of the lubricator/protectant in an all in one CLP product. That made sense to me.

    I also asked Mr. Furlong about using the MC2500 oil and the TW25B grease. He asked what type of guns I was shooting and then said I shouldn't need the oil for a Glock. He went on to explain that the oil and the grease contained the same chemicals. The oil has a smaller amount of the synthetic Polytetrafluoroethylene (PTFE) particles in it. The reduced amount of PTFE particles makes the oil product more viscous.

    PTFE particles seem to be a proprietary Mill-Comm version of a Teflon-like substance designed specifically to aid in lubricating guns. TW25B was initially designed to lubricate Gatling guns in the military. There is a lot more information about the chemical makeup of Mil-Comm's products in their FAQ page:

    http://www.mil-comm.com/index.php?op...d=29&Itemid=43

    I followed the guidelines set forth in Mil-Comm's video (posted above) and cleaned my Glocks with 91% alcohol. I detail stripped them and removed all the existing cleaners/lubricants. Then I wiped them down with the MC25 Premium Weapon Cleaner... then I lubed them with the TW25B grease.

    Mr. Furlong said I would notice my Glocks operating much more smoothly after using the TW25B grease for a while. I'm not sure I notice any difference so far, but I intend to stay with the Mil-Comm products. The cleaner is much less toxic and the grease is much lighter than what I was using... those were my goals...

    ...and of course it doesn't hurt that Dave Sevigny uses TW25B grease...
    Last edited by __jb; 12-29-2010 at 04:38 AM.
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    I've used TW-25B for many years..
    I got introduced to it back when I had several SIG Sauers..
    I've used it on both my old Glock 19 & now my 17L & it is smooth & does slicken up the parts over time, I put a little dab on the connector & trigger bar interface as well as the four metal slide rails plus the barrel & the firing pin safeties lug..
    It seems to collect less rubbish than oil does & stays slippery & smells good too..
    I've seen other guys suggest Tetra but now suggest TW-25B..
    I've never used their MC25 or MC2500 so can't comment on them..

    Nice Video link & write up on the Mill Com Products ___jb

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    one of my 1911's came with a sample of mil-com grease. i noticed i kept separating into a thick white gel and a clear liquid. i'd have to mix it again each time i applied it. it did slick up the action of my 1911's well enough for about a week, then much of it evaporated and i needed to reapply some. i also noticed i had to put a fair amount on as it didn't spread particularly well. it lubes better than tetra grease for sure. worth the cost of gold? not for me. i've read that some folks experience that viscosity separation , and some don't, so your experience may differ

    when i finished with it i decided to try wilson ultimate grease, and that stuff was great. never evaporated, the action was even slicker, a tiny amount went a long way, and it's almost half the price.


    now, i'm about out of wilson lube, so i just bought some weapsonshield grease in the 2oz tub to try out. looking forward to it. heard good things. it's interesting to try out different lubes.

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    I've been using mil-com products (TW25B, MC25, and MC2500) for over 3 years almost exclusively on most of my handguns. I have been very happy with it. I use a drop of MC2500 for the connector. Rails and barrel get TW25B. I have a G19 that has been lubed and cleaned only with mil-com products. It has just over 9k through it and it looks great. Only light wear marks on the barrel.

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    Thanks for a truly great post.
    I even use that stuff on my folding knives and they work better than from the factory.
    Even that they just came new from the factory.
    Cold Steel Spartain's got two of them. 4 1/2" blades.
    Newest one is a SOG Spec Elite II with a 5" blade.
    Did I say I like big blades and they do little and big jobs very well.
    I use my knife to cut my food up and throw away the bottom bun. Twice the meat and 1/2 the bread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Don Glock View Post
    one of my 1911's came with a sample of mil-com grease. i noticed i kept separating into a thick white gel and a clear liquid. i'd have to mix it again each time i applied it. it did slick up the action of my 1911's well enough for about a week, then much of it evaporated and i needed to reapply some. i also noticed i had to put a fair amount on as it didn't spread particularly well. it lubes better than tetra grease for sure. worth the cost of gold? not for me. i've read that some folks experience that viscosity separation , and some don't, so your experience may differ

    when i finished with it i decided to try wilson ultimate grease, and that stuff was great. never evaporated, the action was even slicker, a tiny amount went a long way, and it's almost half the price.

    now, i'm about out of wilson lube, so i just bought some weapsonshield grease in the 2oz tub to try out. looking forward to it. heard good things. it's interesting to try out different lubes.
    I have heard about the separation issue. It was one of the questions I meant to ask Mil-Comm on the phone; but I forgot. My TW25B is in a syringe. I'm not sure how I would mix it up if it ever separated... but if it ever does separate, I'll call Mil-Comm up and talk to them about it.

    One of the TW25B product reviews I read had about 25 people give it a perfect 5 star rating... One person complained about the separation you mentioned and scored it 1 star. My assumption was that it isn't too big a problem. I'll have to wait and see.

    Not sure what you mean by gold. It's $7.89 for enough to last me quite a while. That doesn't seem to be too expensive to me.

    I realize that everyone won't like TW25B or any of Mil-Comm's products. I remembered that volgrad was interested in TW25B and thought I would post my findings and what led me to switch.
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    I'll continue to use TW-25B & will be in the look for their MC2500..
    I currently use Militec-1 as my weapons oil..
    I've got FP-10, Breakfree CLP, Tetra, Rem-Oil, Militec Grease, Setury Sollutions & several other lubricant that all have different uses on various firearms..
    I like TW-25B & it has always worked well for me..
    My tube is like a small tooth paste tube & the last tube got empty I cut it open with a razor to scrape it clean as I didn't have an extra & the lubricant hadn't separated, I scraped it all out with a tooth pic & put it in a small lid to get every pennies worth..
    I paid about $10 for a 1.5oz tube.. And will again..
    This stuff works...

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    Quote Originally Posted by __jb View Post
    I have heard about the separation issue. It was one of the questions I meant to ask Mil-Comm on the phone; but I forgot. My TW25B is in a syringe. I'm not sure how I would mix it up if it ever separated... but if it ever does separate, I'll call Mil-Comm up and talk to them about it.

    One of the TW25B product reviews I read had about 25 people give it a perfect 5 star rating... One person complained about the separation you mentioned and scored it 1 star. My assumption was that it isn't too big a problem. I'll have to wait and see.

    Not sure what you mean by gold. It's $7.89 for enough to last me quite a while. That doesn't seem to be too expensive to me.

    I realize that everyone won't like TW25B or any of Mil-Comm's products. I remembered that volgrad was interested in TW25B and thought I would post my findings and what led me to switch.

    it's all relative the syringes typically hold .5oz for around $8-$9. weaponshield is about the same price in the syringe, but if you can buy the 2oz tub of it for the same price. i prefer the convenience of the syringe, but you can't beat the tub price lol

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    I've been using Shooter's Choice for a while but recently bought some TW25B. I like it better and will probably stick with it once the Shooter's Choice is gone.

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    The 1.5oz tube for $10 is way cheaper than the .5oz for $8-$9 IMO.
    It comes out just as good as a syringe too..

    I don't know if you guys realize this or not but most if not all of these lubricants will send you a FREE sample of their oils/greases.. Send them an email & tell them your interested in their products
    WeaponsShield, Militec-1 etc. have sent me samples..
    I already have the TW-25B or I'd try them too..

    Just yesterday cleaned up & TW-25Bed my newly aquired G26..
    used weapons shield on the barrel & rails..

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