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    Belgian Browning Hi Power (pic heavy)

    In response to a fellow member's request, please find below some pics of my 1980's Belgian Browning Hi Power.

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    These are great guns.... Mostly a John Browning design, he started the project for the French government working for Fabrique Nationale, but unfortunately he died in 1929 before the Hi power's design was complete. Fortunately for FN, they had another very talented gun designer, Dieudonné Joseph Saive, working for them and he "completed" JMB's work.

    They are often called an "improved 1911" although that is not true. Browning had sold all rights to his 1911 patents to Colt and he was forced to, in essence "compete with himself" and design around his own patent restrictions to produce the gun.

    If you have never fired one of these, do yourself a favor and don't.... It will definitely cost you money!
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    Ooohh, ahhh. I like it! I didn't realize that they had an ambi safety, was that always a feature? I had one of these many years ago, it was ex-Nato, kind of rough, but since it was my first pistol I remember it fondly. Yours is in superb condition, thanks for letting us have a look!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cohland View Post
    Ooohh, ahhh. I like it! I didn't realize that they had an ambi safety, was that always a feature? I had one of these many years ago, it was ex-Nato, kind of rough, but since it was my first pistol I remember it fondly. Yours is in superb condition, thanks for letting us have a look!

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    No, the ambi safety is a "Cylinder and Slide" improvement.
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    How is it compared to a Colt? Is it better or similar in quality, but different in style?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nickndfl View Post
    How is it compared to a Colt? Is it better or similar in quality, but different in style?
    That's a big question.

    I don't have a Hi-Power at the moment, so I can only refer to drawings and recollections. I'll assume when you say "Colt" you mean a 1911, is that right? Let's compare the Hi-Power in 9mm (9x19, or 9mm Luger) with the full-sized 5" Government 1911 in .45 ACP, the most "traditional" configurations.

    The Hi-Power was the first high-capacity pistol I recall seeing, with a 13-round capacity of 9mm ammo. The 1911 carries 7 rounds of .45 ACP ammo.

    Both have a very similar part-count, according to the drawings. The Colt has an internal extractor, the Hi-Power has an external extractor. Both are robust designs, with long histories in military and police service. The Colt has a fitted barrel bushing, the Hi-Power has a "bull barrel" that rides directly in the slide.

    Both are single-action only pistols. Pulling the trigger only releases the hammer to strike the firing pin, it does not cock the hammer. The hammer is cocked by the recoil action of the slide.

    Both have (typically) steel frames and removable grips.

    Both have a left-side slide stop lever.

    The 1911 is currently made by perhaps a dozen reputable manufacturers, maybe more. I know of only one maker of the Hi-Power, Browning, although it was made in Canada during WWII and may have been made under license by other countries for their military services or police.

    The Hi-Power shown, owned by our very own EdF702, exhibits a high degree of polishing and care. I have seen Hi-Power pistols in a dull matte Parkerized finish for military service, and the current Portuguese produced guns have a very nice polished finish. As with any gun with a long history, there will be showcase examples and beaters, and everything in between.

    The two Colt 1911s in my safe, an XSE™ and a Gold Cup® National Match, both have a reasonably good finish, but definitely not a polished finish that approaches that of Ed's Hi-Power.

    In summary I would say that they are similar in build quality, but the 1911 is supported by a huge after-market of suppliers of specialty, replacement, and competition parts. For a gun to use in competition, I would probably choose the Colt 1911 because it can compete in USPSA Single-Stack Division or NRA Standard Pistol. I don't see the Hi-Power very often in competition, but its value as a defense sidearm is unquestionable. And it is beautiful, at least to me.

    I'm sure that others with more current experience with both guns can fill in some of the gaps I have undoubtedly left in trying to answer your question.

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    Even though the same genius, John M. Browning designed them both, due to patents that Mr. Browning no longer owned, he "HAD" to make the mechanism "different" enough to not be a 1911, or 1906, 1908, or 1910, but it still needed to be a design worthy of Browning's reputation. Some notable differences are the trigger, a "double stack" magazine, a magazine safety, no grip safety and no barrel bushing.

    Different, but similar in that they are wonderful timeless designs that are still in production, largely unchanged, after many decades.
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    Nice Ed! I love Hi powers!




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    OK Ed, now you have just gone way toooooooo far, off the reservation, dropped the baby and generally P*ssed me off. It looks like the twin of the one I carried every day for 9 years with 2 mags back to back in my back jeans pocket. I LOVED that gun and I mean that seriously. I lost it in a robbery in 1988 and thus far never recovered. Relax, the serial numbers don't match . Also the rear adjustable sight was slightly different but oh my God could I drive nails with that gun. Should you EVER decide you just don't want it for what ever reason I want first dibbs on it. Congrats, but it makes me so sad to look at something so beautiful. Be SAFE.....Shoot WELL
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    Quote Originally Posted by OklahomaSafeShooting View Post
    OK Ed, now you have just gone way toooooooo far, off the reservation, dropped the baby and generally P*ssed me off. It looks like the twin of the one I carried every day for 9 years with 2 mags back to back in my back jeans pocket. I LOVED that gun and I mean that seriously. I lost it in a robbery in 1988 and thus far never recovered. Relax, the serial numbers don't match . Also the rear adjustable sight was slightly different but oh my God could I drive nails with that gun. Should you EVER decide you just don't want it for what ever reason I want first dibbs on it. Congrats, but it makes me so sad to look at something so beautiful. Be SAFE.....Shoot WELL
    OSS... Tell us how you really feel! I'm either glad you enjoyed the pics, or I'm sorry to have upset! I am so confused.... LOL!
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    It's ok I've had my cry and I'm fine now. Just do me a favor and keep her safe. When I had my robbery I didn't own a gun safe. That was then, today I have a HEAVY Liberty Gun Safe bolted into concrete. It's all good, sorry to confuse you (yes I'm still jealous).
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