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    Glock Armorer Re-Certification

    With my three-year Glock Armorer certificate about to expire, it was time to get into the class again, so I completed it today at a nearby Police Department. I'd say we had about 35 students, with just a few GSSF members:the rest were Law Enforcement. I enjoy attending classes with LE people because they're serious (at least on a topic like this), polite, professional, and attentive, so we didn't waste five minutes all day.

    Without a complete rehash of the contents of the first Armorer Class, I can report that Glock has apparently been continually improving the course: the presentation materials were updated, and the content seemed a little more rich and less filled with stories, although there were a few. We worked on Gen4 G22s, and I think we probably detail stripped and reassembled them six to ten times, maybe more. Not too much, but enough to get you accustomed to the process. I'd rate the classroom work 5 on a scale of 1 to 5, I wasn't bored for one second.

    The Armorer's Manual has been updated, and was presented along with an Addendum and an Attachment Sheet for Gen4. The "slide presentation" was updated quite a bit, with several new animations that I didn't see three years ago. All in all, a good class and well worth the time and money.

    I picked up a couple of things that I either hadn't heard before or was just plain not paying attention:

    1. If you have an engagement problem between the striker nose and the trigger bar, you might be able to use SP 01293: "Trigger with trigger bar - G19 pre-EH ser #s (marked + on top of cruciform) (grooved trigger)". This part has more "kick" at the cruciform, and may fix weak engagement. If you're puzzled by that, say so, and I can go into more detail in another post.

    2. I don't know how I missed this one, but there's a new trigger housing and ejector for .40 Gen4, P/N 28927: "Trigger Mechanism Housing w/ejector installed - fits .40 Gen4". This ejector, marked 28926, has the angled tip that has worked so well in 9mm. I'll be ordering some of those to try them on Gen3 G35s..I know of two that are producing "Brass To Face", maybe this part will help. I'll buy the trigger mechanism housings, pull out the ejectors, and install them in Gen3 housings to try to effect a cure.

    Other handy stuff:

    1. The older RSAs were good for 5,000 rounds, then they should be replaced. The new Gen4 RSAs have a replacement recommendation at 10,000 rounds, but they haven't had one break yet (!).

    2. The slide nose ring and rails can be bent if the slide is dropped, and they won't be repaired under warranty. So, don't drop the slide. We had a recent case on this Forum where a Member had damage to the rails, and some of us thought it would be covered. It won't.

    3. With the slide out of the gun, pulling the firing pin back and letting it slam into the firing pin safety can damage both parts. Don't do it.

    This will get the keyboards humming: use a small drop of GREASE (not oil, GREASE) between the trigger bar and connector, and apply a dab of grease to the slide cam. Oil the slide rails, let the oil run down the rails by holding the slide vertically.

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    Nice post Chris! I hope to take the course in the future, when I have "time" who knows when that might be!!


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    thanks Chris!! I'm due in the fall, so looking forward to it. never thought about lube on the slide cam.

    did they have the cutout Glock for you to inspect?
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    Quote Originally Posted by NWGlocker View Post
    thanks Chris!! I'm due in the fall, so looking forward to it. never thought about lube on the slide cam.

    did they have the cutout Glock for you to inspect?
    You're welcome, of course. There was no cutout pistol there, if there had been I would have tried to take it home. The new animations really do a better job of explaining the innards, you'll enjoy it. As I mentioned, the material is evolving, it's worth the time and money.

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    Makes sense to use grease on the connector and camming ramp along with oil for the rails...

    Good review, Chris...
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    Thanks for the post Chris. I'm going down to Smyrna for re-certification on December 10th.
    Sounds like quite a few things change in 3 years.
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    _jb, it's about time for you to re-certify isn't it? Or have you already?
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    Great post Chris, good stuff! Thank you
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    Thanks for the post, always a pleasurable and informative read.
    I would enjoy a bit more about that striker/trigger bar engagement when you get a chance.
    How long has the new .40 trigger housing and ejector been out? I need to check my G22 and see whats in it...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slice View Post
    Thanks for the post, always a pleasurable and informative read.
    You're welcome, it's my pleasure.

    I would enjoy a bit more about that striker/trigger bar engagement when you get a chance.
    In a Glock, the term "engagement" refers to the contact between the cruciform of the trigger bar and the nose of the striker.

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    The way we're taught to check this is to get the orange partial cover plate, install it, and then inspect engagement by looking through the slot under the orange plate. Correct engagement is at least 2/3 surface contact of the cruciform by the striker nose. The striker is the black part on the top in the drawings. Here's a link to the plate:https://www.lonewolfdist.com/Detail....orange%20plate

    How long has the new .40 trigger housing and ejector been out? I need to check my G22 and see whats in it...
    Thanks again!
    I don't know how long the part has been out, but apparently I was asleep when it arrived. It's on the parts list available online at Glock, and should be available through Glockmeister or your other favorite OEM parts supplier.

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